[OOC] The Heavenly Prophet Inn

[Alugere]

A few things:
@Kelzor: You're probably going to need to drop one of those rods. (You need money to spend on your gear like your bedroll, any backpack you get, and other various items). Also, for basic food and drink... that would be trail rations at 5sp per day and .5lbs each and a waterskin at 1gp and 4lbs.

@Everyone: Food and drink is more important to your survival than magic items (Unless you have a high survival skill or a ring of sustenance).

[Kelzor]

Probably a good call Alugure. I suppose if I need to be worrying about food a ring of sustenance is a better idea than a rod anyway.

@mightymconeshot is there anyway I can swap my crossbow that I'll never use for a ring of minor spellstoring (or a ring of protection if that doesn't meet approval)?

[mightymconeshot]

@ Cancer-what do you mean?

@ kelzor- ? You money is yours to spend. However I do not believe that a crossbow trades fairly to magic item.

[Alugere]

Kelzor meant the +3 item he got (Which is currently a crossbow for him).

[mightymconeshot]

Character Sheet problems.

I am giving all the sheets a read over, I am not calculating every bit of math you used but just things I noticed that could and in some cases needed to be corrected.

@Jackson Triggs- skill points, by my count you overshoot by 10 points. No gear as well and you have yet to pick your +3 free item.

@ Cash- No gear and it looks like your skill points are high. Your AC is also low.


@everyone please give me a list of what books your draw your feats from so I know. Thanks

[mightymconeshot]

yeah feel free to trade it in for a ring of spell storing. It will start the game empty.

[Cash]

@cancer: im using http://www.pathguy.com/monsters.htm it gave me a progression table and everything but baseattack and base saves being a minotaur I only get 5 hd at level 6

[Alugere]

When using a url hyperlink on this site, the site address goes in the brackets while the clickable text goes between the two sets of brackets. The result is weird otherwise.

Also, your stats (subtracting bonuses) work out as:
Str: 18
Dex: 14
Con: 18
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 8

I'm not sure how monster races work, but assuming you get the normal extra stat point at level 4, then your base ability scores before racial modifiers at level one were:
Str: 18
Dex: 14
Con: 17
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 8
This cost 39 points in the point buy system (And if you don't get a stat point, that means you had an 18 con at level one for a total of 42 points in the point buy system. As cancer said before, we only have 30). Therefore, unless you are wearing items that give you +2 str and +2 con, you need to readjust your stats.

[Cash]

Ok lets try this again url ishttp://www.pathguy.com/monsters.htm

In total I get a +8 to strength, +6 to constitution,+2 to dex, -4 to int and -2 to charisma

I also redid the stats using a point calculator so I did end up with 30

[Cancer]

@ DM : I was asking if you could please post the character creation details. I've had to do a little research here and there and a little bit of speculation.

What I would like to see : Books we're allowed to draw material from, starting wealth, starting EXP, and clarification on what this free +3 weapon can be.

[Alugere]

@Cash: see below (spoilered to save space).

 

Originally Posted by Cash

In total I get a +8 to strength, +6 to constitution,+2 to dex, -4 to int and -2 to charisma

I counted up on the site you listed.
1st: +2 str, +2 dex, -4 int, -2 cha
2nd: +2 str; Total: +4 str, +2 dex, -4 int, -2 cha
3nd: +2 con; Total: +4 str, +2 dex, +2 con, -4 int, -2 cha
4nd: +2 str; Total: +6 str, +2 dex, +2 con, -4 int, -2 cha
5nd: +2 con; Total: +6 str, +2 dex, +4 con, -4 int, -2 cha
6nd: +2 str, -2 dex; Total: +8 str, +4 con, -4 int, -2 cha
6nd: Nothing; Total: +8 str, +4 con, -4 int, -2 cha

As such, it matches the totals in the Monster manual Minotaur character bonus of +8 Strength, +4 Constitution, -4 Int, and -2 Cha.

Currently your stats are:
Str: 26
Dex: 14
Con: 22
Int: 4
Wis: 8
Cha: 6

Without your racial bonuses they are:
Str: 18
Dex: 14
Con: 18
Int: 8
Wis: 8
Cha: 8

Without your level 4 stat point they are:
Str: 18
Dex: 14
Con: 17
Int: 8
Wis: 8
Cha: 8

The resulting cost is:
16+6+13=35

As a side note on the DM's previous comment about skill points: with your current intelligence, you get 1x4 skill points at 1st level and 1 point for the next 6 for a total of 10 skill points (you currently have 15).

And this is one reason I avoid playing races with racial hit die. They make things confusing.

[Cash]

alugere: You forgot the +2 to dex when you did the stats without racial bonus i would have a 12 for dex and i messed up on the con. that is bad math on my part so the total on that should be 20 putting me at 16. Sorry about the above part i totally skipped the side comment on the -2 to dex on 6th thanks for checking my work and everything.

[Cash]

the only question i have is the srd from here says minotaurs get 9x(2+int) for first where are you getting 4? I'm just curious so i know where to go when i have more questions.

[Alugere]

Originally Posted by Cash

the only question i have is the srd from here says minotaurs get 9x(2+int) for first where are you getting 4? I'm just curious so i know where to go when i have more questions.

Racial Skills: A minotaur’s monstrous humanoid levels give it skill points equal to 9 × (2 + Int modifier, minimum 1).

A minotaur is seen as have 6 'levels' due to it's hit die. That 9x(2+int) is the total number of skill points. I am unsure of how that works with the savage species progression, butooking back at the progression chart you are using, though, I would say you have 5 'levels' to get skills from (1 HD = 1 'level'). As such, you get (2+int)x4 Skill points the first level as is standard (Typically being (Base Skill Number+Int)x4 at level 1) and then (2+int) at each of your next 4 'levels'. So I guess you actually just have 8 skill points.

(Essentially, the minotaur would gain 4x(2+int) at first and then 5x(2+int)over the next five levels for a total of 9x(2+int))

[Cash]

ok that clears that up thanks ill edit that right now