[OOC] The Green Room

[redwulf25]

Originally Posted by Donutboy

Since I have initiative in my World Championship match, WK goes first, right?

Yep. I've seen that he's been online some time recently so hopefully he'll be on in the next couple days for your match and mine.

[redwulf25]

I appear to have miscounted the matches when I was asking how many rounds the HC title match was required to go. Does this list seem to be correct?

Match 1 Preliminary Match #1 (Intercontinental)

Match 2 Preliminary Match #2 (Women's)

Match 3 Tag Team Championship Match

Match 4 Hard Core Title Match

Match 5 Intercontinental Title Match

Match 6 Main Event: World Championship Match

It's difficult for me to just look and see where on the card the match appears once they're out of order, especially since the non-match segments are interspersed. I'd suggest next card adding a note that a match is match 1, or match 2, etc.

I'm also wondering if we need a house rule about how many stunning moves you can string together. In my IC title match I could conceivably have kept going with a pretty good chance of having him stunned the whole match (Distract the ref so Jeeves can hit him with the silver platter, sleeper hold, choke lock, have Jeeves distract the ref and use a low blow, add stun to a DDT . . .)

And finally I seem to recall a discussion in NEWCEO's fed about why choke lock and sleeper have the stun modifier. The move they're supposed to set up is maintaining the hold next round if they don't submit the first round. That's why you often see a sleeper go on for a long time with the target ineffectually struggling until they either pass out or have a surge of strength and break the hold.

[Rinjo]

I changed the submission rules because I consider a stun move followed by a submission move to be unbalanced.

I don't know if a house rule is needed here... but maybe something as simple as no consecutive stuns would fix it. Going for a 1d4 or attribute only move when you opponent is trying to stun gives you a higher chance of succeeding... but if you are stunned and they just keep stunning you over and over you are probably screwed.

Does anyone have thoughts?

[redwulf25]

Even though I suggested it I'm not certain a change is needed. A lot of my perception that I could have kept him easily stunned the whole match if I tried could have been a combination of bad rolls on his part and his brawn of 0 (certainly the first stun was something of a surprise considering how low he had to roll to be stunned there). Just thought it might need some looking at.

Starting tomorrow (well, today it's past midnight) I'm getting up at hours that are incredibly early for me and I'll be gone twelve hours a day. I'll try to keep up with my matches but can't guarantee I won't come home to wiped to post. By Friday I'll be back to a more normal schedule for me. Time to go get four hours of sleep.

[Rinjo]

You? I am looking for WK!

Don't worry about slow posting for a few days. We are still trying to track down a few wayward players anyway.

[ahlhelm]

I PMed you about this too, Rinjo, but I thought I would throw it out here as well, for rules clarification as to Submissions matches.

Over in our Intercontinental title match, redwulf rolled a critical failure on a Submission attempt against me. Now in the Pinfall rules that you're modifying here, a crit failure for HIM automatically results in a pinfall attempt for ME. Under the current rules, does this mean that it would reverse in to a submission attempt for me, albeit without the initial damage roll?

If not, what benefit do I receive for him getting the critical failure?

[redwulf25]

Originally Posted by ahlhelm

I PMed you about this too, Rinjo, but I thought I would throw it out here as well, for rules clarification as to Submissions matches.

Over in our Intercontinental title match, redwulf rolled a critical failure on a Submission attempt against me. Now in the Pinfall rules that you're modifying here, a crit failure for HIM automatically results in a pinfall attempt for ME. Under the current rules, does this mean that it would reverse in to a submission attempt for me, albeit without the initial damage roll?

If not, what benefit do I receive for him getting the critical failure?

Forgot to roll to confirm. Turns out it was an automatic failure but not a critical one, but the clarification is still needed for when the situation DOES occur.

[ahlhelm]

Rinjo, maybe this is a silly question, but am I allowed (if I have the star power) to insert a post-match promo in to the show?

I just feel American Eagle should have an interview after his huge upset victory tonight.

[redwulf25]

Originally Posted by ahlhelm

Rinjo, maybe this is a silly question, but am I allowed (if I have the star power) to insert a post-match promo in to the show?

I just feel American Eagle should have an interview after his huge upset victory tonight.

For what it's worth star power wouldn't factor in. It's flair that determines how often you can appear. Hope Wildknight returns soon so we can have my other match.

[Kelgate]

For future reference: I don't know if Ring Strategist has been valued into the new house rules. It states you can change your move before dice are rolled, so would you need to declare using Ring Strategist during yer turn, giving the opponent the knowledge of doing it before they pick their move? I just don't know how its being translated in this game.

[WildKnight]

Ring Strategist is basically worthless if you have to declare you're going to use it ahead of time. I really don't see the problem with using it as written.

[Kelgate]

I agree with you Wild. My only concern is that there really isn't an opportunity to use it without there being at least one roll shown. Just was wondering what kind of rule is going to be used on it. Just making sure when I use it in the future, whenever I do, I use it correctly.

[redwulf25]

Originally Posted by Kelgate

I agree with you Wild. My only concern is that there really isn't an opportunity to use it without there being at least one roll shown.

Well, in my IC title match a couple of times when I had the initiative I declared I was going to use it and added it into my roll prior to Alhelm making his roll.

[Rinjo]

Maybe we change the wording of ring strategist to allow its use after rolls?

Thoughts?

Most matches are done. I think SS dropped. Please start thinking of match requests and promo requests today. I will post the new card thread shortly where you can make your requests.

[ahlhelm]

I actually made an edited description for it for Pro Wrestling War:

Once per card, you can change your maneuver at any time in a round. However, any opponent currently attacking you or the opponent that you are attacking that has already rolled can choose to re-roll their current dice total (without any change to said move.)

That makes it equitable to the person that you are changing it on.

You might also want to look at High Pain Threshold, as the new submission rules pretty much negate it as well.