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Old 06-02-2005, 11:37 AM
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Adult themed games

I am just curious as to how difficult it has been in the past to run adult themed games at this site? I know that the official rules are designed around the intention for this site to be child friendly (PG or maybe PG-13). On the other hand the ability to close a thread to only those players chosen by the DM makes it very tempting to me to run an adults only game. However, I cannot imagine how someone (myself included) would verify a person’s age, unless only real life friends were invited to this game. I am asking for some feedback on this subject as well as this question, will a thread within my game with a title “Post here to verify you are over 18” with a suitable description of the game thread and what can be expected to be encountered in that thread be considered out of line, and cause the administration more problems than it is worth?
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:46 AM
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1 - specifics: What sort of adult-themed were you considering? I suspect that some varieties of 17-R gaming would just not be acceptable here, whilst others might well be under controlled conditions. More specifics, essentially is what I'm asking for...

2 - the principle: telling people what they're getting into and making absolutely and explicitly sure that they're fine with it is a good idea whenever you're gaming, and I don't see putting a post in to check that being a problem. If, however, the game itself doesn't sit comfortably with the admins here, then no matter how much checking , verification and consent-gathering you do will make the game alright here.
As to actually knowing if people are 18 or not - if hard-core pornography sites can get away with just making you click on a button saying "I am 18"... well, I reckon that makes the legal situation fairly clear.

All with the proviso that I do not speak with the voice of admin-power, so it's all just my 2 electrum pieces.
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:47 AM
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I'm certainly not in charge, but I would advise you to steer clear of anything "adult oriented" even in private threads.

From the Site Rules . . .
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Simply, DnD Online Games is meant to be a site for roleplayers from early teens through adulthood . . .
Additionally, the cost of operating this site is offset by the Google ads you see on these pages.

From the Goole Adsense Terms of Service . . .

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To uphold the quality and reputation of Google AdSense, all publishers who apply are reviewed according to these program policies:

Site Content: Site may not include:

* Excessive profanity
* Pornography, adult, or mature content

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Old 06-02-2005, 11:52 AM
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I think it depends on what you consider adult/mature content. I have a RL campaign that is unsuitable for children because of the way it works, altough it contains no pornography, profanity or excessive violence or torture.
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:55 AM
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That's what I was getting at in my post. A mature attitude to some things may be needed in games which are non-BoVD material (I know, I know, don't get started on that debate now)
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:04 PM
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Hmm....I was of the opinion that in terms of the site, by and large it was a PG-13 content.
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:10 PM
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I don't think it's possible to write something that could be rated 18+. Perhaps 15+ though I've not heard of such a thing. Obviously profanity is impossible, a game will not have pornography, so what exactly is 'adult, or mature content'? I don't mean 'what do you consider..', I mean what in heck is it? (google doesn't elaborate)

I got the BoED just today, which carries a 'contains mature content' warning sticker. The intro:
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Like the Book of Vile Darkness, the Book of Exalted Deeds is intended for mature audiences. That's not because it's filled with lurid depictions of depravity and torture. The material isn't meant to shock and offend (though some topics may). Rather, this book deals with tough questions of ethics and morality in a serious manner.
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:43 PM
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I don't think it's possible to write something that could be rated 18+. Perhaps 15+ though I've not heard of such a thing. Obviously profanity is impossible, a game will not have pornography
It certainly can - and I've read some (elsewhere) that have been explicitly pornographic in content. I'm certain that's not what Terquem is after, but the games are out there. Writing explicit sexual matter that's at the 18+ level is easily done, as is role-playing it. Extreme violence or depravity likewise are depictable in writing, and can be as shocking as visual versions of the same. None of those would acceptable here though...
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:54 PM
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If that is true then I can not see how a game devoted primarily to killing could be acceptable.
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Old 06-02-2005, 01:10 PM
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I have been thinking of starting a game based in and around the story I began writing here called "Or so the Magenta sails". This story will contain pirates, and the themes would be centered on the idea that individual liberty is held higher than respect or adherence to systems of authority. I can imagine, from my own perspective, that this game would have actions that could be considered depraved, as well as elements of romance, though not pornographic, possibly erotic (which by the way I have written a considerable amount of and I am not about to get involved in the discussion of separating the distinctions between the two). I gather from the comments of those above that as enticing as it may be to try this kind of exercise, it was never the intention of the administration to deal with the ramifications of pushing this envelope, and so I will let it go for now. Perhaps in the future things may change. Thank you for the feedback.
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(Specifically, Caveman, a game in which there is a highly graphic depiction of the behavior of pirates, as well as the very sensitive topic of persecution for political ideals.)
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Old 06-02-2005, 01:21 PM
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In that case, though the idea is very interesting and certainly worth pursuing, here is not the place I wouldn't think. Them pirates are nasty folks after all.

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If that is true then I can not see how a game devoted primarily to killing could be acceptable.
It's all dependant on how it's done. Just going out and vanquishing evil creatures, finding treasure, bantering etc. can be done easily enough without explicit or graphic desciptions of violence, sex or death. Heroic characters also tend not to go in for morally unacceptable behavious such as torture, rape etc etc, all of which would be 'mature or adult' in nature.

Put another way - killing cows for meat is not (in my book) morally repugnant or likely to cause offence when described as part of role-playing. Neither is killing an ogre who has committed unspecified acts of evil. Cold-bloodedly murdering innocent children in the name of your evil god is (in my book) morally repugnant and likely to cause offence when described as part of role-playing.

Thus the (very good) question - would running a game where these things occur as a matter of course and are explicitly described and role-played be acceptable on this site?
As answered above - probably not.
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Old 06-02-2005, 02:21 PM
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If the game is going to be heavily adult-themed, it should not be played here. If adult events/actions etc are going to be used in moderation with warning and consent, then I guess it's alright. The rules primarily affect the general boards.

Note that this is subject to change, and that Varun, should he decide to cast his opinion, has the final say.
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:31 PM
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I think what Terquem is planning is that adult actions happen, but are not described in great detail if at all. Essentially something like the pirates stopping in a city and one of the sailors decides to go find a prostitute. After this they might describe the actions to find the prostitute, but as soon as they are alone what happens would become unknown to everyone else. In the morning the pirate would come back out with a satisfied look on his face, feeling good about what had just happened.

I believe that this might be fairly close to what Terquem is planning on doing. None of the "adult" acts would be described, but they would still happen. In other words, basically the same things that happen on public TV these days (Public TV in my area is restricted to PG-13). They have sex, but all you know is them going into the room and then coming back out of the room.

I personally don't view anything that I've described as bad... PG-13 at the most, maybe even PG if it is even less described than this.
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:28 PM
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Ummm if you can forgive the fact that i'm new here, i'd still like to voice my opinion.
I think that dnd especially on a website such as this is more like interactive story telling than any game i've played. All members contribute to the story being told and likewise are being told a story. Like any good story, it can have a plot, sub-plots, comedy, action, morality, romance, and any emotion under the sun, from trust to disgust. Trying to say 'NO, it cannot have romance' is like telling Michelangelo he can't use the colour blue. No other game i've played (and i've played a lot, trust me) can emerse you in the same way that D&D can if you let it. To deliberately disect the game in that way leaves a gaping wound in the story and damages the appeal of it. Normally stories will keep themselves 'clean' so no restrictions are needed, but drawing a line saying 'Thou shalt not kiss passionately' doesn't help anyone. I would like to think that gamers have enough sense to know how to keep the game respectable.
Somebody mentioned descriptions. Descriptions in a story are just as vital as tempo, key and tone are to piece of music. They are how we visualise the world we have willingly stepped into. They are what turns some flowers into dassling array of pure simplicy. They are what turn a single tear on a child's cheek and turn it into a lifetime's worth of heartbreak. To describe something is to make it tangilbe. And once it is tangible, its effect is felt in everyway. Descriptions separate a good story teller from the best story teller and turns a journey into an adventure!
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Old 06-12-2005, 07:17 AM
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I would like to think that gamers have enough sense to know how to keep the game respectable.
Commendable but not realistic. If they dont set a line, then you can be sure someone will want to do exactly what they dont want them too. Once one does and gets away with it, it opens the flood gates.

Just like a DM has to set rules for game enjoyment, so too should admins do the same on thier website. Because in the end, it IS their website and they get to decide what they want to have happen on it, to make things enjoyable for thier target audience, and keep them coming back.

I like the fact that this place doesnt get covered in cheesy kiddy-flirt/cybering rp like a great deal of "rp" forum sites i have been too. Its about adventuring! There might be some flirting and some "go into the bedroom with a prostitute and come out smiling tomorrow" stuff going on, but thats typical and non-graphic. Im sure we dont want the place to start reading like a harliquin romance novel with various things heaving and quivering.

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