Questions about two weapon fighting

[Tyoka]

First question: My druid weilds a MW scimitar in his right hand and a +1 Returning dagger in his left. This dagger is his only means of ranged attack. The question is, if his only attack for the round is throwing the dagger, does he still take a penalty for holding two weapons? Even though he's not taking a full attack action? In 3.5e two weapon fighting includes ambidexterity, so I don't think the fact that he's using his left hand would matter.

Secondly, this is a less important and probably obvious-answer question, but I wish to clarify. Drawing a weapon without Quick Draw is a partial action right? What about drawing two weapons?

Third question, can two weapon fighting be used in conjunction with the Flaming Blade druid spell(casting the spell and holding another weapon, or maybe casting it twice)? And if so, does the Flaming Blade(wielded as a scimitar) count as a light weapon?

[Belminar]

1: no. You're not fighting with 2 weapons. But some DMs may impose a -4 penalty to off-hand attacks reminiscint of the Ambidexterity feat from D&D 3.0

2: There are no more partial actions. Drawing a weapon is a move action. If you have a +1 BAB, you can draw the weapon while making a move in the same move action. If you have the two-weapon fighting feat, you can draw 2 weapons in the time it takes to draw 1.

3: Sure!

[Spartan]

With Quick Draw, drawing a weapon is a free action. Without the feat, it's a move action. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat as well as Quick Draw, then you can draw two weapons at the same time as a free action.

[Tofu]

1- just use the move action to swich the dagger to your main kand aka 'drawing the weapon' wich you can do free as you move.

3-A 3-foot-long, blazing beam of red-hot fire springs forth from your hand. You wield this bladelike beam as if it were a scimitar. Attacks with the flame blade are melee touch attacks. The blade deals 1d8 points of fire damage +1 point per two caster levels (maximum +10). Since the blade is immaterial, your Strength modifier does not apply to the damage. A flame blade can ignite combustible materials such as parchment, straw, dry sticks, and cloth.

So yes but at the penalty of weilding two one handed weapons.

Primary Hand Off Hand
Normal penalties –6 –10
Off-hand weapon is light –4– 8
Two-Weapon Fighting feat –4– 4
Off-hand weapon is light and
Two-Weapon Fighting feat –2 –2

The feat oversized two weapon fighting, would alow you to ignore the penalties and just get the regular -2/-2

Or buy using the fame blade as the ' Primary' hand weapon it would work fine.

[Tyoka]

But a blade made of flames weighs nothing, it has to be a light weapon.

[Master_Bratac]

The weight is irrelevant; it's the actual size of the weapon that matters.

[Belminar]

ahh, sorry I should have read the full post. they're right, I'm wrong. Yes, you can use the flame blade and another weapon, but the flameblade does not count as a light weapon.

*hangs head in the shame of wrongness*

[Tristan]

you where right on the first two things though

[Tyoka]

Originally Posted by Master_Bratac

The weight is irrelevant; it's the actual size of the weapon that matters.

How is weight irrelevant? "Light" weapon. Unless it refers to some sort of glowing ability, it would have to refer to weight.

[Lanthar Mandragoran]

Originally Posted by Tyoka

How is weight irrelevant? "Light" weapon. Unless it refers to some sort of glowing ability, it would have to refer to weight.

NO, light-weapon refers to a class of weapons NOT the weight.

Since Scimitar is a 1-Handed weapon so is a flame blade.

please learn to read the rules before arguing a point

[Belminar]

Actually, your both wrong

In this context, it refers to the callorie content of the weapon. Light weapons are crafted with sacharine or other artificial sweeteners.

[Lanthar Mandragoran]

Originally Posted by Belminar

Actually, your both wrong

In this context, it refers to the callorie content of the weapon. Light weapons are crafted with sacharine or other artificial sweeteners.

what about weapons crafted from olestra?

[Belminar]

they make the wielder roll a fort save or get cancer.

[Tyoka]

lol you guys are silly.

Lemme explain the process of my thinking. A longsword and shortsword only have a 2lb difference in weight. That's barely noticeable. The reason a shortsword qualifies as a light weapon, however, is because it's shorter. Swinging a 4lb weight around wouldn't be hard at all, but a longsword has that weight spread out over about 3ft(anyone who owns any real weapons knows this). This makes it harder to perform wrist movements, making it not appropriate for being a light weapon or applying to weapon finesse(rapiers are an exception, since they're designed for wrist movements, like whips).

Thusly, a nonmaterial flame sword, though as long as a normal scimitar, would weigh nothing and therefore allow the same wrist movements as a shortsword or dagger. You could make it 10ft long sword of flames and the weight wouldn't make a difference, though I think that would require some proficiency training.

[jj_wolven]

Aaahhh sarcasm....feels like home.

But 'light' refers neither to weight or to it's illuminary properties (or any calorie issues as any class of weapon can make you lose vast amounts of weight in short time periods). Light is used in reference to light combat, weapons that are agile and quick as opposed to one handed weapons that are usable in one hand but take more resources (time, space, energy etc - try making a slashing attack with a dagger and with a 3' long switch...both weight about the same but the dagger moves much better). And even moreso the two handed class of weapons which requires an additional hand to control and uses more room, effort and time.

-me