[Information] Hammering Out Details

[Lukarnis]

Again, pretty self-explanatory. Use this thread to make sure you and the other players with which you game are all on the same page. Physically, Emotionally...ecumenically. Levels, rules, whatever it is that you wish to make more clear.

This is NOT THE ADVERTISEMENT THREAD. Please post your initial advertisement THERE, not HERE. Thanks.

[Rogue13]

Okay, so now we have a game thread! Yay!

I suppose first order of business is divvy up the roles. I think Cryptic wanted to run a Dungeon Delver. Efekjek wanted to run a psion, I think.

Originally Posted by Shanrio

Interested. Given that many other players are interested in playing single characters, I'll refrain from applying with an entire party(for now) and instead apply with a simple Human Spellthief 5/Chameleon 5.

Concerning the Disguise requirement of Chameleon(8 ranks, and Disguise isn't a class skill for Spellthieves), I intend either to play as a Silverbrow human(Human subrace found in Dragon Magic, gain Dragonblood subtype, trade extra skillpoints for Featherfall as SLA 1/day per 4 levels, +2 racial bonus on disguise checks and Disguise always as class skill)

OR -in case you don't allow that particular race- I can always take the Skill knowledge feat from UA(found here) to gain Disguise as class skill.

Looks like at least Shanrio knows Exactly what he wants

I'd be willing to run whatever is left over/needed.

[Adolfo]

Those all sound fine.

As for Shanrio, any one of those options sound ok with me. Just play whatever would be the most fun for you and the group as long as it's within the rules and gets my ok. (That last part goes for everyone).
The sites about having fun, don't feel like you have to fill a role. I'll adjust the dungeon to match whatever capabilities you possess.
The only thing I will suggest is that at least one of you is capable of using a wand of vigor, lesser. Those wands are cheap and invaluable out of combat.

[Shanrio]

Since a silverbrow human is mechanically superior(Loss of 13 skillpoints vs loss of a feat), I'll be taking that option.

My character will be able to handle wands and most magic items via UMD, and cast a few spells himself.

Regarding material from Dragon Magic(and to a lesser extent, draconomicon), I *might* want to take the feat "Draconic Cohort" from Draconomicon, page 104. It allows me to attract a Dragon as cohort(similar to leadership, limited to dragons from a list on Draconomicon, page 138, without followers) and treat its ECL as 3 lower as it actually is.

The Dragon I'd like as cohort would be a Pseudodragon, listed as ECL 4 on page 138 of the Draconomicon, even though normal calculating(+3 LA, +2 HD) would bump it to ECL 5.
With the Dragon cohort feat, a standard Pseudodragon would be treated as ECL 1 or 2. Since my character is at level 10, and thus eligible to have a 8th level cohort, this would allow me to add 6 or 7 levels of Dragonfire Adept from Dragon Magic, page 24, to said Pseudodragon. The Dragonfire Adept is a Class similar to the Warlock, but it doesn't gain any armor proficiencies, and it gains a breath weapon instead of the warlock's eldritch blast.

I am willing and able to provide all necessary details beyond what I already stated in this post, given that the DM OK's this choice of feat and cohort.

[Adolfo]

Unfortunately, Draconomicon isn't on the books list. If you want to take leadership for a Psuedo Dragon, I suppose that'll be fine. Though it'll count as an NPC as normal.

[Shanrio]

Since Leadership comes with followers, I'd rather avoid the hassle and skip the whole cohort thing. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Efekjek]

Originally Posted by Rogue13

Efekjek wanted to run a psion, I think.

You must've read my post about the other dungeon crawl I'm in, because that's what I'm playing in the other one. For this one, I haven't decided yet.

[Rogue13]

Hey, Adolfo, what's your take on lycanthropes?

[Adolfo]

Lycanthropes are fine. Just keep the ECL in check. Which animal did you have in mind?

[Rogue13]

Adolfo - I'm thinking of either a Dire Bat or a Dire Bear as a natural Lycanthrope (I don't really like the affliction mechanics) at a +3 LA.

Not sure about class yet. Maybe Rogue/Druid into Daggerspell Shaper (CA) That would allow me some real nifty shape changes and spells.

[Cryptic]

I'll get started on that dungeon delver right away.

Did we have someone drop out, though? I thought I read that in the OOC thread.

[Rogue13]

They weren't in this game.

[Adolfo]

Dire bears have 12hd. Since your ECL is your LA + HD + Class levels, you'd be an ECL15 character minimum.
Remember lycanthrope gives you the animals HD as well as abilities.
A dire bat has 4hd, so you'd be ECL 7 starting. That'd give you three levels in a class.

[Rogue13]

Really? I thought it was just LA+Class levels. Sorry!

Definitely NOT going with a lycanthrope then. And after re-reading daggerspell shaper, not liking it too much either. I think I'll abandon the whole druid-ish idea I had and go with something else.

What do we need? A front-liner? A healer? Support? Skillmonkey? I'll figure out what to play based on that.

[Cryptic]

I've got skill-monkey covered, though he's very focused in the trapping/hiding/searching business.