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HOW-TO: Correctly Create a Monster PC
Okay, it seems as though there is more than a little bit of confusion on this site as to how, exactly, to use a monster as PC Character. So, I figured I would write up a simple HOW-TO, complete with foot notes. I would greatly appreciate it if the admins would sticky this post. READ FIRST Things to note before you read the step-by-step guide.
THE STEP-BY-STEP GUIDE Okay, now on to the step-by-step Note: For simplicity, I am assuming that my DM has started a 15 ECL campaign.
PARTING COMMENTS / OPTIONS
I hope this helps. Lanthar FOOTNOTES Quotes from the June 24, 2005 DnD 3.5e FAQ Quote:
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*Eye's tear up*
I'm not the best at explining things so now i have something to point to when players ask me how to do that. *hug*
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Wonderful!
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Excellent!
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You're my new hero...I hope the admins sticky this.
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Very nice... but I think there is a (small) mistake in there.
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Other then that, it looks really useful. ![]()
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Umm... Read the first part of your own quote again. The Pixie would skip step 5 because they have only 1 hit die to start with. However, something like an ogre would not because they have more than 1 hit die.
I think the guide is useful, especially to all those people who want to create monster characters and can't seem to figgure it out (i.e. they can't figgure out how to read through everything).
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But why would it specifically say Humanoids and Class levels?
Also, in the Monster Manual, only the Humanoid entry states that the first level is replaced, and that the creature is given as a 1st level warrior, whilst the 1HD pixie is given as a first level Fey... I'm not sure, just thought it only counted for actual humanoids. Strange wording or something...?
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The gide is great. it dosn't include info on what to do if your placging a monsterous pc with no class levels though
![]() ![]() however if you do that you gain no starting feat or 4x skill points if you take a character class. Some races are just plane good without a standard pc class attached to them. Savage species also has some good info on this.
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Don't forget to mention that when spending skill points gained from your Monsterous hit die the skills that are considered class skills are the ones they are listed as having in the monster manual, all others are cross-class. This only applies to creatures that have MORE than 1 hit die to start, if they have only 1 then their class level replaces the monsterous hit die.
For example the Minotaur (one of my fave monster characters). In the Monster manual the Minotaur's listing for skills say: Intimidate+5, Jump+8, Listen+8, search+6, spot+8 When spending the skill points gained from the Minotaurs 6 Hit Die of monsterous humanoid only the skills listed above are class skills all others are cross-class. Monsterous humanoids have 2+int skill points per hit die and with an average INT score of 7 the minotaur really doesn't have to worry too much about skills. Outsiders are a little more difficult as they get 8+int skill points per HD (x4 at first level as usual) and often have fairly high intelligence and a wider selection of skills. EDIT: Oh yea and GREAT GUIDE dude! Last edited by SpatulaOdoom; Jul 22nd, 2005 at 04:21 AM. |
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All creatures with 1hd replace it with a class. this is in the newest official faq
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Creatures that start with one hit dice normally advance as a class, for instance Kobolds or Goblins, they don't get more inherent hit dice otherwise.
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A Couple of Questions / Comments have Cropped up, that I would like to address.
1 Unfortunately, the terminology by WotC is slightly misleading. It really should read "Races and Class Levels". Especially since this chart includes a "humanoid" reference. Please see the pixie entry in the SRD for proof. Quote:
Also, what Tofu mentioned, and what I was trying to explain in the HOWTO, is that you get you're Initial Feat and you're 4x Skill point ONCE. You get it whenever you take your FIRST character level (Read first HD, racial or class) 3 I tried to explain this under point 5 4 Yes, for example the Pixie shown here (I think this is from Savage Species): ![]() Allows a player in an ECL 1 campaign to begin life as a Pixie, by sacrificing it's 1 class level and taking one level of Fey, instead. Even a player starting in a ECL 5 campaign could do this. Though, I agree with Tofu, I wouldn't do it for a Fey level. However, I might do it for an outsider level. Which brings up a really interesting point / option... the chart DOES have an entry for advancing as a humanoid. I personally think that would be ignorant on the player's part. Well, except in one case. The Half-Dragon, the most mis-understood and over-abused template in the game. It has the following entry: Quote:
However, if you choose to take a RACIAL HD rather than a Class HD advance, you would get the Dragon HP ONLY, Base Race BAB, Saves, Skills... that means a Racial HD advance for a Half-Dragon Xill (Outsider) would be particularly bad@$$... With those having been said, I'm thinking about modifying the HOWTO a little in order to include the following terms (as I think WotC is somewhat sloppy with their term). And I'd like to get your thoughts RHD = Racial HD (aka Racial Character Levels) CHD = Class HD (aka Class Character Levels) ACL = Actual Character Level = RHD + CHD ECL = Effective Character Level = ACL + LA = RHD + CHD + LA What do you think? |
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