[OOC] The Merry halfling

[GrimDarkOtter]

I'm taking Evocation, primarily because of the aforementioned Evocation (Light) subschool, but also because of some Evocation (Fire) spells that are thematically appropriate. A prime example being Burning Gaze which is so very close to the tabletop signature spell for the Lore of Light, Shem's Burning Gaze.

[Details5252]

Hey guys, happy to be here. Posted the background for Linus Griff, a gunslinging Witch Hunter. Will have my sheet up later today.

[DukeofTuring]

Hi all, welcome to the game

[Details5252]

Busier day than usual at work today. Will finish sheet tomorrow.

[GrimDarkOtter]

My sheet should be done and ready to go. I ended up saving a lot of the gold, but I'm sure we'll find some use for it.

[darthcharon]

As long as you spent at least half of it you're fine. Speaking of which, since quadra is no longer playing, we'll say you guys put her pistol and blackpowder you found in the "bag" of holding, so that you can still use/sell that.

[Details5252]

Finished my sheet, at least I think. it's my first ever Pathfinder sheet, so please take a look at it and let me know if I've made any mistakes

[dbaque]

Welcome, all!

The strong imperial majority is going to be making our odd Bretonnian a little worried. To say nothing of our elven witch.

[DukeofTuring]

Hey, Marcus and the witch hunter might turn out to be an intimidating combination together, but Marcus will gladly personally vouch for Ollona or (particularly) Lunigen, odd curse or background aside. Also, Imperials may be a majority, but from GDO's RP sample and from what I know of Warhammer Imperial Wizards he's not likely to be a judgmental or persecutorial type. Even if Gottfried and most of the other members of his college are pretty clean and above board, plenty of wizards get up to stuff that would get them lynched were it not for their importance in the defense of the empire. On the other hand, he might be inclined to take to treating you as a test subject, even if Ollona seems to have resisted the impulse so far herself .

I didn't run the numbers or look over them in great detail, but the character sheets seem to be done right if perhaps at times still incomplete. A few notes:
*Details, if you're so flush with cash you might consider buying a masterwork chain shirt rather than studded leather. It'd be another point of AC for just a bit more money and encumbrance, and it'd be ready to enchant as soon as one of the casters hits 5th level and takes "craft magic arms and armor". Mithril chain shirt would be a good idea as well, if you can dig somewhere for the money, certainly a good long term investment although fluff-wise I'm not sure if and how you'd like to justify your imperial having such an item. Do they have a warhammer version of mithril? Elven or dwarven make?
*A general comment: If Holly's leaving the +1 seeking pistol when she leaves, it seems a shame to sell it off at half price when it would be so much more useful to one of the incoming party members. That said, I can't see a way of engineering it so that Griff is the buyer when even the half-value selling price of the pistol is above his starting wealth. Thoughts?
*Otter, I hate to get all anal-retentive about the languages of the warhammer fantasy universe, but... well, I like to, actually, I just feel like an ass when I do it . That said: (a) Elven is actually three different major sub-dialects. I'm sure that they're all mutually intelligable, but you might want to make a note which sub-language is known by Humbolt, presumably Tal-Eltharin (high-elven). (b) Dwarves are really strict about not teaching their language to non-dwarves. If Humbold does know Khalazid that would be quite an achievement. (c)Draconic isn't one of the warhammer fantasy languages I usually see listed, although I have to admit that it makes sense

[GrimDarkOtter]

DukeOfTuring " he's not likely to be a judgmental or persecutorial type"

FOOL! Have you no concept of what the unbidden embrace of the mystic arts can wright upon the mortal soul!!!! Even the least exercise of unencumbered power is an invitation to the Dark Powers to bring their foul spawn into our world as children from the foulest of wombs!!!!!! What few persons have escaped Their Gaze are mere pawns! Or worse! Agents of infiltration or future doom, forseen by the very winds of Fate Itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That said, be as anal retentive as you like. My personal justifications are as follows, and I welcome every criticism and counter argument. As we know, Warhammer Lore (of the Fantasy or 40K variety) is subject to quite a bit of variation. I know my picks aren't the best in terms of fluff-justification, anyways.

• Draconic: Pathfinder Says So. Also I couldn't think of a reasonable 4th language.
• Elven: Though Gottfried might "know" the tongues, he will always sound very foreign and does not understand ever nuance. As he is human, he does not grasp the dialectal variations involved, and knows only a bastardized version of Eltharin. Thus, specifying a dialect implies his full and comprehensive understanding, which as a mere primate, he lacks.
• Dwarven: I figured fairly justified due to one of the main duties of the Light Wizards being containing magical artifacts, and the runecrafts/skills of the dwarves being useful to that end, their Order might have some special relationship.

Thank you for the wiki link though. Might replace Dwarven with Dark Tongue if needed, as it can occupy a similar "occupation hazard" slot for "why I need this language".

[Details5252]

Originally Posted by DukeofTuring

*Details, if you're so flush with cash you might consider buying a masterwork chain shirt rather than studded leather. It'd be another point of AC for just a bit more money and encumbrance, and it'd be ready to enchant as soon as one of the casters hits 5th level and takes "craft magic arms and armor". Mithril chain shirt would be a good idea as well, if you can dig somewhere for the money, certainly a good long term investment although fluff-wise I'm not sure if and how you'd like to justify your imperial having such an item. Do they have a warhammer version of mithril? Elven or dwarven make?
*A general comment: If Holly's leaving the +1 seeking pistol when she leaves, it seems a shame to sell it off at half price when it would be so much more useful to one of the incoming party members. That said, I can't see a way of engineering it so that Griff is the buyer when even the half-value selling price of the pistol is above his starting wealth. Thoughts?

Good point on the Mithril chain shirt. I just assumed I'd be saving for a mithril breastplate like every light armor wearer ever, but I think the expense is worth it now. Maybe the group can hold onto the pistol until Griff becomes a full fledged member, then you can give it to him

[dbaque]

I'm not worried about orderly, reliable, level-headed Marcus, comrades in arms & all that. Heck, as far as Lunigen is concerned, they're friends. It's these chaotic, "the hell with it" types that might have the knight watching more closely.

We could always meet up with the new fodder recruits before we get to selling off our loot.

Edit: Details, unlike in 3.5, in Pathfinder, mithral breastplate still requires medium proficiency to use (even though it otherwise works like light armor). As a gunslinger, you don't use medium armor.

[Details5252]

Originally Posted by dbaque

Edit: Details, unlike in 3.5, in Pathfinder, mithral breastplate still requires medium proficiency to use (even though it otherwise works like light armor). As a gunslinger, you don't use medium armor.

Oh, problem solved then. Chain shirt 4life

[DukeofTuring]

I guess if there's one sort of Imperial wizard that Marcus can get along with it might be the college of light types

Originally Posted by dbaque

We could always meet up with the new fodder recruits before we get to selling off our loot.

Edit: Details, unlike in 3.5, in Pathfinder, mithral breastplate still requires medium proficiency to use (even though it otherwise works like light armor). As a gunslinger, you don't use medium armor.

I thought of doing that, or even suggesting that we might meet Griff as a buyer when we try and sell off the gun. The problem is that the suggested resale price (1/2 purchase) of a +1 seeking pistol would be something like 4,500 GP, where Griff's starting wealth will be 3,000 GP total.

Honestly, it strikes me as a bit non-sensical in terms of in-game logic that Holly would abscond without the badass magic item so well suited to her. Whether or not we keep the pistol, though, I'm sure that Darth can adjust bounties and rewards so that the existing players balance out to wealth-by-level. I'm just trying to think of a way of getting Griff said bad-ass pistol without using reasoning that smacks of "He's a PC, so our characters just start magically cooperating." I guess if he joins our party before we sell the pistol off, we can always loan it out to him on the understanding that it's still the property of the original members of the party...

Originally Posted by Details5252

Oh, problem solved then. Chain shirt 4life

I had forgotten that pathfinder made mithril medium armor a decent choice for skirmisher characters, but dbaque does raise a good point. You'd still be gaining the potential for another +2 in AC if you take medium armor proficiency, though, it's not a horrible choice if you don't mind sticking to relatively crappy armor until you can pony up the ~4,500 GP for a mithril breastplate.

I guess it's more complicated that I thought.

[GrimDarkOtter]

But no doubt the College of Light will note that the Will Of Sigmar is a fickle and un-scientific force upon Magic, and your Efforts are no doubt but the Pleading Of Children.

The ability to speak in Capital Letters is, of course, the most valued of an Imperial Magister's abilities.