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Old Jan 17th, 2025, 09:16 AM
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No worries, Alemar... sometimes our memories write us stories that are easier to remember than reality. Heck, that's why I asked when you mentioned it... I'm pretty sure I scanned that list a time or two, but I got thinking maybe my mind is misreading something, filling in blanks, etc..

If it helps, you aren't the only person to think that there are certain people that win time after time after time.

I think there is one situation there, where someone one in later part of the year, then won again in the beginning or so of the following year, which may account for some. Or, like you said... Get nominated a lot, win, still get nominated (we don't control who gets nominated), etc..
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Reading everything and digesting, and thinking, good stuff and wisdom in this thread
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Booker Prize material right there!


If someone posted that and I was the only other nomination. They'd win.
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Fyi I've read quite a few stickys. So not everyone ignores them.

As to how to judge them. I know that spelling is a good idea. But grammer not so much. I know that if I took a paragraph straight from a book wrote it exactly as it is. I'd be told it has poor grammer.
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Fyi I've read quite a few stickys. So not everyone ignores them.

As to how to judge them. I know that spelling is a good idea. But grammer not so much. I know that if I took a paragraph straight from a book wrote it exactly as it is. I'd be told it has poor grammer.
I suppose it depends on the book. With the ability to self-publish on Amazon and other services these days, anyone can write something and publish "a book". With the advent of AI, absolutely... AI grammar is atrocious, at times. With translated books, or those written by non-native speakers, it's quite possible... I've read a few technical manuals written via Chinese speakers into English, and it's atrocious. Worse, perhaps, due to the poor use of tricks like Google translate. And, of course, it would depend upon the era of the book. If you copied Robert Luis Stevenson for today, the grammar would be difficult to parse, often.

That said, it helps, remember that Hemingway was derided for his sentence structure at times, as was Faulkner... and their methods that were once the scourge of English language have now become standards and styles. Without Hemingway, we would not have had Mickey Spillane, and half the detective noir stories in our lives. Without Lester Dent and his peers, we would not have pulp fiction.
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No, actually I cant... Because looking at the list, I'm completely wrong.


That is possible, it could also be that I saw multiple nominations or honorable mentions month after month and mistook that as a winning post?

In my Memory, it had been The Rat Queen who I had seen being mentioned as winning PoTM/PoTY multiple times with maybe a month or two in between. But on the list, their wins are spread out with a year between them as per your rule...

I'm sorry, I don't know what I was thinking of?
Thanks for clarifying, Alemar.
And The Rat Queen certainly would be a possible multiple winner if that was allowed--consistently great posts from the Queen.
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I think Mitsubachi hits on a lot of great points. A great post would need to have a lot of creative freedom that isn't as readily available to players to expand on the world often, or without risk of rambling. And as others have said, it's alack of exposure to other posts outside of the games you are currently in. I'm not going to go thoroughly read through another game that I have no part of, so I'm mostly limited to my fellow players. And I also don't like the idea of self-nomination, feels like patting yourself on the back.

I see the banners, but it's not something I'm thinking of when reading through posts, so I don't bother to even consider posts for PotM, hasn't been a high priority for me. I'm not sure what a good solution is to increasing community interaction, most people probably just focus on their games.


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Is there still a limit on sig sizes?
I'd also like to call attention to this, this thread as 1 example.
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yeah agreed.

Is there still a limit on sig sizes?
Yes, I believe so.
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Ooh, I see the problem. Viewing the site on mobile makes the signature space a lot smaller, but the problem isn't present on my laptop
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If someone posted that and I was the only other nomination. They'd win.
Then that would beg the question, on what grounds would a post like that be nominated?

It simply wouldn't.
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I suppose it depends on the book. With the ability to self-publish on Amazon and other services these days, anyone can write something and publish "a book". With the advent of AI, absolutely... AI grammar is atrocious, at times. With translated books, or those written by non-native speakers, it's quite possible... I've read a few technical manuals written via Chinese speakers into English, and it's atrocious. Worse, perhaps, due to the poor use of tricks like Google translate. And, of course, it would depend upon the era of the book. If you copied Robert Luis Stevenson for today, the grammar would be difficult to parse, often.

That said, it helps, remember that Hemingway was derided for his sentence structure at times, as was Faulkner... and their methods that were once the scourge of English language have now become standards and styles. Without Hemingway, we would not have had Mickey Spillane, and half the detective noir stories in our lives. Without Lester Dent and his peers, we would not have pulp fiction.
Steer Clear of Antony Burgess' A Clockwork Orange then. That is one hell of a novel to unpick!
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Well, it's a writer's job to "do things" with language. If some of those things upset grammarians then so much the worse for the grammarians.

As for PotM, there's of course a difference between playful abuse of language and sinful ignorance of its rules. Even so, I would always try to look past that and read for intent. The real value in a great post (for me) is how a player bounces the ball back to their fellow players so they can reply with a great post of their own.
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And since there's a lot of hate towards self nomination. It should be a requirement that in order to win you must have nominated 3 other during different months.

And maybe make it a requirement for all gms to nominate every month. Then you'll not only get more nominations but more different ones.

And remove the ability to self nominate.
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I don't see any hate towards self-nomination. I only see a number of people (myself included) who wouldn't feel comfortable doing so even though it's explicitly allowed. I have no problem with others nominating themselves, though, and consequently, I see no reason to change the rule.

I am not in favour of requirements and restrictions but encouraging GMs to submit with some periodic prodding might be a good idea (and in fact, this month the quantity of posts in my games was a bit low but the quality was certainly there ...)
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OK I've been giving this a bit of thought - in fact I've gone on a little wander down a mental pathway - and have a radical suggestion.

The core purpose here is to get lots more nominations, right?

My little journey started when I saw this...

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And The Rat Queen certainly would be a possible multiple winner if that was allowed--consistently great posts from the Queen.
And I thought to myself, "Hmmm, mods/judges should probably avoid saying things like that, in order to steer well clear of any danger - however small - of even a slight suggestion of bias/cronyism."

Then I thought, "That rule that one person cannot win multiple times is really important to keep - for the same reason. It might put people off participating."

Then I thought... well why are judges even selecting "winners" anyway? It has been admitted already that this is arbitrary and subjective. So what does it add?

The point of PotM is to celebrate great posts. Encourage people.

In my mind, there are three levels to giving someone credit for a great post. First, you can give it XP. Next, you can say to the person directly how much you liked their post, in the relevant OOC thread. Then, the ultimate; you can say, "This is so good I'll put it up for PotM!"

So they are all winners really. (Yes, I know that is a cliché.)

How about you leave it there? It must take mods time and effort to read through all the nominations, which might be better spent on other things, and I don't envy you trying to make such a difficult judgement. Instead, every PotM is there, and is automatically a winner, and can be read by anyone interested - and let everyone make their own judgements.

I agree with others that this means the self-nomination option should be removed. This is about paying compliments to others.

But you needn't worry about multiple "wins" for the same person. Anyone can be nominated, whenever. It does not take anything away from anyone else.

You might get some nominations not quite of the type you want.

But the core purpose here is to get lots more nominations, right?

So that is my crazy idea.
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