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Old May 29th, 2023, 09:00 AM
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Sounds good to me. If pursuing two objectives in one Jaunt is more likely to make it unstable or dangerous, I'm happy to focus the goal of the first jump on Agni entirely. In some sense "taking Tou along to show him this thing is real" can be the secondary objective, and that's achieved by literally going anywhere and doing anything.
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Old May 29th, 2023, 09:38 AM
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Sounds good to me. If pursuing two objectives in one Jaunt is more likely to make it unstable or dangerous, I'm happy to focus the goal of the first jump on Agni entirely. In some sense "taking Tou along to show him this thing is real" can be the secondary objective, and that's achieved by literally going anywhere and doing anything.
The way I understand it, in this case "objective" is simply what our party wants to do, rather than something that correlates to the world truth of our jaunt or any complication related to it. If we think of it in terms of wishes again, then the wish is "give me a cool shopping center" and that's what the complication would correspond to. Our two objectives would simply be that our shopping list for that shopping center has two items. I wouldn't expect any added danger or instability for having a longer shopping list. I imagine that whatever we're planning to do in the reality behind a jaunt wouldn't influence how dangerous the new reality turns out to be, the only thing that influences that seems to be the jaunt truth that we're using. Hopefully the one with the omniversal bazaar isn't too bad, though some kind of black market reality with lots of danger still seems fun.

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Either way, I don't think that Aisha would have worried about the risks in this case. The risks of jaunting are unpredictable and she would expect our party to be able to handle themselves.
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Just to make sure I’m clear on our timeline.

RayJay picks up Mike.
Adventure ensues
RayJay and Mike meet Aisha and two become three
Further adventure ensues
Group meets Agi
Adventures get out of control and the group ditches RayJay
Group meets Tou
New team is formed with the intent of not using jaunting to perpetrate misery but instead do something good
Hey Tou check out what this device does
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If it’s six months from meeting to ditching RayJay what are we looking at for lengths of inter party relationships?

It seems like Mike has enough cause to trust Aishi and Agi to an extent. We’d have known each other long enough to be friendly and we collectively ditched somebody in a reality they just finished running a crime spree in, so we’ve had a bonding moment there.

Even weeks can be a long time when spent exclusively with a small group of people. Throw in life or death reliance on each other and these relationships would be rather solid.

Do we have any in-jokes or light hearted teasing of each other at this point?


I’m picturing RayJay making a mistake in a jaunt and we end up in a reality with purple trees. We narrowly avoid a TPK, and perhaps this is the moment we start looking for an escape plan from RayJay. Then “purple tree” becomes our code word for dangerous situations.


I’m glad we mostly know each other. Those games go better for me. I like to keep a game moving forward, but it’s hard sometimes to be “oh absolutely. Let’s do what you just suggested complete stranger that I met yesterday.” And stay true to my character.
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Group meets Agi
Adventures get out of control and the group ditches RayJay
These two have been kind of merged together in something like: "Adventures get out of control, Agni shows up and decides to take the jauntbox away from RayJay, Mike takes the opportunity to ditch RayJay".

In a previous comment I proposed this
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I could actually see Agni being sort of an antagonistic force in this first encounter. Perhaps he appears in the midst of a ruckus created by RayJay as always, he sees the group as the classic gang of bad guys using jaunting to do as they please across the omniverse, so decides to forcefully take the jauntbox away from them. The group can't leave right away, due to the high level of Rift radiation accrued via RayJay's inconsiderate behavior, so a confrontation is inevitable, and when Mike understands what's going on, he takes the opportunity to betray RayJay (Aisha may do the same after her "precognition" tells her it's the best course of action, or maybe she's the one who convinces Mike in the first place) and make a truce with Agni.
Now defeated, RayJay is left to the local authorities, while the new group can now wait for their Rift Counter to decrease and get to better know each other.
Seeing the idea in your post, I guess we could have instead: RayJay starts his crime spree in a certain reality, underestimates said reality and ends up creating the "purple trees" himself. Agni shows up in search of a jauntbox, sees that it's in the hands of a criminal, without much scruples decides to take it away from him. Mike understands what's going on, takes the opportunity to betray RayJay and makes a truce with Agni.

Then there's some "Unsuccessful jaunting in search of Hypatia" right before "Group meets Tou".

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Old May 29th, 2023, 04:14 PM
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Okay so Mike has only done some adventures with Aisha and RayJay and Agi arrived at the split.

Instead of Agi takes jauntbox away we could go with Aisha and Mike using Agi’s arrival as their “I don’t want to die here” moment and join forces with the person who’s less likely to be a lunatic?
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Instead of Agi takes jauntbox away we could go with Aisha and Mike using Agi’s arrival as their “I don’t want to die here” moment and join forces with the person who’s less likely to be a lunatic?
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Just to make sure I’m clear on our timeline.
Your timeline checks out for me, I'm okay with Agni appearing just at the split. Do we have a rough time span for how long it has been between meeting Agni and meeting Touissant?
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If it’s six months from meeting to ditching RayJay what are we looking at for lengths of inter party relationships?
Depending on what you feel is right for how RayJay operates, I think it would be right for him and Mike to have picked up Aisha a few weeks after they started jaunting together. Even if RayJay was the motivator of their trio, maybe he hoped for Aisha to be the brains behind his ill intentions. Her abilities can certainly be put to good use for various criminal endeavors. Aisha isn't comfortable with a huge loss of lives though.
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It seems like Mike has enough cause to trust Aishi and Agi to an extent. We’d have known each other long enough to be friendly and we collectively ditched somebody in a reality they just finished running a crime spree in, so we’ve had a bonding moment there.
That checks out for me. Aisha doesn't do well at being she is exceptionally good at being two-faced though unfriendly to begin with, but I'd also like it if she considered her party reliable allies during our omniversal ventures. Also, trusting comes more easily to Aisha because she's not that easily surprised by people she has known for a while.
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Do we have any in-jokes or light hearted teasing of each other at this point?
I imagine that interacting with Aisha is an interesting experience for a human. She is very well-spoken, but her design is pretty conspicuously inhuman. Her jokes would probably be a bit on the dry side of things, and I imagine that she's not too much for teasing. I'd be interested to know how Agni and Mike are treating her. She doesn't expect to be treated as a human, but she is pretty keen on establishing her free will.

Specifically, Aisha does not identify as a human. She considers herself an AI.
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I’m picturing RayJay making a mistake in a jaunt and we end up in a reality with purple trees. We narrowly avoid a TPK, and perhaps this is the moment we start looking for an escape plan from RayJay. Then “purple tree” becomes our code word for dangerous situations.
Sure, that sounds fun.
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I’m glad we mostly know each other. Those games go better for me. I like to keep a game moving forward, but it’s hard sometimes to be “oh absolutely. Let’s do what you just suggested complete stranger that I met yesterday.” And stay true to my character.
I get that. Depending on how immersive the narrative is set up to be, I also prefer to keep my character's actions and reactions consistent with their profile.
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Do we have a rough time span for how long it has been between meeting Agni and meeting Touissant?
Not yet. Maybe 1-2 months? Enough to fully explore together a handful of realities and for Agni's hopes on Aisha's abilities to wear off a little?

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I imagine that interacting with Aisha is an interesting experience for a human. She is very well-spoken, but her design is pretty conspicuously inhuman. Her jokes would probably be a bit on the dry side of things, and I imagine that she's not too much for teasing. I'd be interested to know how Agni and Mike are treating her. She doesn't expect to be treated as a human, but she is pretty keen on establishing her free will.

Specifically, Aisha does not identify as a human. She considers herself an AI.
Agni would find Aisha's abilities quite intriguing, if only because her advanced pattern recognition represents the closest thing to a lead he has ever had, at least in the beginning.

In any case, I imagine Agni not to be particularly outgoing or joking (especially given the circumstances), but tendentially serious and professional (when not aggravated, at least ), direct and no more sociable than he needs to be.
Given Hypatia's tales and his own peculiar heritage, he's not gonna put much weight on whether someone is a human, android or else, unless he comes across someone/something exceptionally exotic: as long as you can be considered a person, he's gonna see you and treat you like a person.

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Mike is of average intelligence, but is at heart a bit of a meathead. He’d be fascinated by spending time with an AI, and while only jaunting for a short while he’s definitely become a lot more accepting of just how much he doesn’t know.

Mike’s sense of humour leans a bit more toward frat boy hurr hurr type jokes, but recent experiences have him appreciating absurdist humour a bit more. There was a British guy in his college classes, so he understands that dry humour exists even if he doesn’t always get the joke. Given the time frame I’d assume Mike tried some “teasing” type jokes and was met with indifference.

I’m coming at this from a jaunting (when my phone starts to autocorrect haunting into jaunting this game has won) is fun, and these people seem unlikely to get me killed standpoint. He’s totally onboard to pursue the goals of his team, but if we need a quick exit to a different reality he’d vote for something like “a reality where Hitler got into art school” or “a reality where Genghis Khan fell off his horse and broke his neck as a child” type thing. Full disclosure that’s what I’d use a jauntbox for.
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he’d vote for something like “a reality where Hitler got into art school” or “a reality where Genghis Khan fell off his horse and broke his neck as a child” type thing.
Since Agni comes from a stranger side of the omniverse, I could see him being generally oblivious to "ordinary" history "Who the hell is Hitler? "
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as long as you can be considered a person, he's gonna see you and treat you like a person.
Oh, fun! Do you think that Agni and Aisha would have had a discussion about whether Aisha considers herself a person? It's not necessarily a conversation that Aisha would prompt.
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Given the time frame I’d assume Mike tried some “teasing” type jokes and was met with indifference.
Hmm, I'm considering. Aisha's default response is to humor humans who are joking with her. Underneath, she doesn't particularly care, but she'd need to be in a mood to deviate from the default. And Aisha's moods can be a bit arbitrary. I still need to flesh her out some more during play so I don't want to establish too much apriori, but I envision that her thought process is fundamentally different from a human's. I'm looking forward to the learning curve of figuring out how Aisha "feels", and in what ways she'll express herself, or what she'll care enough about to even opt into expressing herself for. She does have thoughts and emotions about things. But they might turn out to be a bit alien from our perspective.
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if we need a quick exit to a different reality he’d vote for something like “a reality where Hitler got into art school” or “a reality where Genghis Khan fell off his horse and broke his neck as a child” type thing
Now I'm hoping that we'll get into that situation eventually. Let's give HotsuSama some homework on conceiving alternate-history realities. It can't turn out not interesting, even if the subjects are challenging!
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Oh, fun! Do you think that Agni and Aisha would have had a discussion about whether Aisha considers herself a person? It's not necessarily a conversation that Aisha would prompt.
Maybe or maybe not? Instead of addressing the subject directly, he may have simply observed and interacted with her to explore her nature and get an idea of her independence and agency, enough for him not to question her free will and personhood from then on.

Perhaps they may end up having a deeper discussion about it in case they get closer.

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Maybe or maybe not? Instead of addressing the subject directly, he may have simply observed and interacted with her to explore her nature and get an idea of her independence and agency, enough for him not to question her free will and personhood from then on.

Perhaps they may end up having a deeper discussion about it in case they get closer.
Hmm, considering the depth of the subject, I'm thinking that we can leave it unexplored for now and figure out the details during play. Does that sound right to you?
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Alright, it seems like the conversation is mostly about solidifying some character relationships and timelines.

I'll get a game thread opened up in the next day or so.

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I reserve the right to lock you in said realities for a length of time proportionate to how long it took me to figure out the alternate causality, because damnit, appreciate my worldbuilding you [incoherent grumbling].
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@HotsuSama:
That's very valid! Spinning whole realities into existence is actually quite the challenge. Luckily complications do exist. So maybe the reality where Hitler got into art school turned out to become one that's currently in a nuclear winter. Maybe that would be dodging the crux of that particular alternate-history scenario, but at least it wouldn't involve a ton of research. For a moment I tried to imagine how I would approach that jaunt truth as a Guide, and I know that I at least would have had to consider how much time I would deem a good idea to sink into answering questions of alternative history.
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