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[Majestic Pyre]

Ok, that makes sense. Where does the strength mod come from? Isn't that included in the nonlethal weapon damage?

[Ziether]

Yeah. I forgot to make it (Weapon damage plus StrMod)+(8d6+12).

[Majestic Pyre]

Cool. Thanks for the clarification.

[Drakeblade]

Math as I would read it.

 

4d6
Knockout +4
Sap Adept +8

Sap Master roll your sneak attack dice twice, adding Knockout.
4d6+4
4d6+4
If Sap Adept is added onto that
4d6+4+8
4d6+4+8
Total it

8d6+24

Edit: as Ziether pointed out Strength mod would be associated with weapon damage.

[Ziether]

As I mentioned, I'll lurk in forums tonight until I find a relative consensus.

[Drakeblade]

Sorry, didn't mean to try and over rule you or anything like that. I was more interest in if my math made sense. I felt like key wording was "roll dice twice" which in my mind would trigger the effects of the others, instead of saying something like "Double rolled sneak attack damage".

[Majestic Pyre]

Ok, while we're at it, may I take the Enforcer feat? And would it work with my unarmed strikes?

[Ziether]

I'm not stopping any feats. I'm limiting Leadership to only bringing your Cohort along, and the rest can be in a town or acting as merchants to bring in money or whatever, but I don't want to have to keep track of that much on the move.

I want you to be able to use any Paizo-official materials that i can gain free, legal access to. In the case of feats, most of them are on d20pfsed.com. If it's non-OGL and not available there, I won't use it. I have the Inner Sea World Guide and the Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition, though, and you can use their contents if you wish.

EDIT: unarmed strikes that can deal lethal damage deal bludgeoning damage by default. Enforcer cares about that. It works.

[Majestic Pyre]

Added a Level of Fighter to my build, as well as changed my feats around a bit. My character is done. I'm officially calling him whole.

[Majestic Pyre]

I take it back! Character Sheet here I come again. Z, please consider my character sheet in flux up until THE DAY

[Ziether]

I don't need a sheet. Sheets can come after picks. Having it done ahead of time shows dedication, involvement, and competency, though.

[Reame]

I just like making character sheets so I usually make the sheet first then write the character. That let's me get a feel for what the character will be good and bad at mechanically so that I can include those aspects into the character. As an example: let's say I use strength as a dump stat for a wizard. The wizard was born frail and weak and had to learn magic to perform simple tasks, this lead him to a fascination with the arcane.

[Majestic Pyre]

That's actually a cool idea! I've never thought about doing it in reverse like that. It makes a lot of sense really.

[Ziether]

Sometimes I do sheet first, but usually I start with a concept.

[Kshnik]

I have to go with concept first otherwise I find myself min/max.