[OOC] The Unlucky Owlbear

[moggthegob]

http://www.rpgcrossing.com/profiler/view.php?id=10384

Alistair is done. I like what the suggestions are for the party and I look forward to the rival nobles thing.

I took 3 traits, and one of them, wealthy, I saw once, remembered what it was and couldn't find it again. As I recalled, it added 900 gold to my total. I dont really need it, I just did it so I could afford my nobles clothing and a horse. If I misunderstood, I will be more than glad to change it , but for now its sleepytime.

[Ravenor]

Originally Posted by moggthegob

http://www.rpgcrossing.com/profiler/view.php?id=10384

Alistair is done. I like what the suggestions are for the party and I look forward to the rival nobles thing.

I took 3 traits, and one of them, wealthy, I saw once, remembered what it was and couldn't find it again. As I recalled, it added 900 gold to my total. I dont really need it, I just did it so I could afford my nobles clothing and a horse. If I misunderstood, I will be more than glad to change it , but for now its sleepytime.

Its under the Basic Social traits and titled "Rich Parents" if I remember right. Lamont is taking the same trait matter of fact.

[Chrystrom]

900 gp?? wow I only get 70gp total for my druid.

Also Mogg...you don't have any equipment, weapons, etc...or spells listed on his sheet. You are also missing any languages

You also have 4 ranks in Knowledge history...you can't have more ranks in a skill than you have hit dice in Pathfinder...which in this case means only one rank per skill.

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[Ravenor]

It also looks like you short-changed Alistair by 4 ability points too, mogg. You used 30 of the 32 point build and looks like you didn't use your +2 to one ability score from being Human.

My sheet is almost done, I just need to finish up the rest of Lamont's non-combat related equipment. I have it linked in my profile but here is the link anywho: http://rpgcrossing.com/profiler/view.php?id=10308

[moggthegob]

oh crud. Thats the sheet I saved when I quit two nights ago. I forgot to save.

[Klomag]

Ravenor: I think you forgot to subtract your equipment cost form your gold. Not that you're in danger of running out :P How come you didn't get anything masterwork, though? Maybe you were just waiting to find the right dwarf-wannabe to do the job? :] (Yes, I can craft metal equipment for the party later on - I'll do it at-cost for the glory of Torag. Well, I can actually try it from the get-go, but I figure nobody has the money.)

You also get an additional skill point for picking your favored class (unless your favored class is something else you're planning to take).

[moggthegob]

Ok I redid what I did last night.

I had some trouble with spell selection. I was really torn between Color Spray, Ray of Enfeeblement, Grease, and Charm Person.

Also, I took point Blank shot and Precise shot, think I'd go with ray spells, since alot of my special destiny abilities have to do with re-rolls and crits. Is this a good idea or should I go a different direction. With 3.5 spells i know its doable , but with Pathfinder core Im not certain there are enough spells for it to be useful.

[Klomag]

I don't think those feats apply to rays, but I'll check again. The reason would be that the penalties they mask don't actually apply to rays. I'll take a look.

EDIT: Nevermind, I guess they're generally assumed valid choices. I'd clear it with Colatine, though, since the actual rules are not clear.

Birched: On my character sheet, the Armor Check Penalty column is all messed up. Everything's still being calculated properly in the end, but every skill either has a 0 or a 3 (not -3). The ones with 3 are invariably INT skills that I have a point in. It's not a big deal since it's still making the calculations (though Swim is doubled, of course), but it is confusing.

EDIT: They work again when the page is refreshed. I discovered the problem. Sorting the skills by any column (even clicking "Skill Name" to no change) causes the change. It's not permanent, even if I save. Weird.

[Chrystrom]

Well in Pathfinder you automatically get three bonus points to any class skill you put 1 rank into so that would explain the 0's or 3's you are seeing.

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[Klomag]

No, it's in the Check Pen column.

[Birched]

Originally Posted by Klomag

No, it's in the Check Pen column.

Link to your sheet?

EDIT: nm. found it.
EDIT2: Those +3's are definitely in the CS mod ("Class Skill modifier") column. And your AC check column looks right, too.

[Klomag]

Ah... hm. It may be a browser thing; I use Chrome. Any time I click one of the categories to sort by, the armor check column changes to what I described. It happens when I'm looking at someone else's sheet, too (at least Lamont's).

[Birched]

Originally Posted by Klomag

Ah... hm. It may be a browser thing; I use Chrome. Any time I click one of the categories to sort by, the armor check column changes to what I described. It happens when I'm looking at someone else's sheet, too (at least Lamont's).

That was the key -- there was a little bug in the sort function. Should be fixed now.

[Klomag]

Perfect! You also fixed Swim; nice.

[Birched]

Originally Posted by Klomag

Perfect! You also fixed Swim; nice.

Yeah... in 3.5 swim had a doubled penalty, but after a thorough search of the core rulebook and the prd I concluded that that was gone in Pathfinder. It's the little details that get you!