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Way of the Wicked - Hound Style

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Game NameWay of the Wicked - Hound Style
Game SystemPathfinder
ThemeEvil vs. Good. Can the bad guys win?
FlavourOrganize Crime
Plot Summary


Introduction
Way of the Wicked is one of very few officially printed adventure paths that allows players to be the bad guy. We will be using the books; however, I will be altering some things. I have run this campaign before and I believe my minor changes will improve the game experience. Minions will be served as per the book to allow your character to feel powerful against the common folk, but bosses will be "spiced up".
Excerpt from the Player’s Hand guide

Guilty. You are a lawbreaker – the worst of the worst. Too dangerous to live amongst the good people of Talingarde, they dragged you in chains before a magistrate and condemned you. They sent you to the worst prison in the land and there they forever marked you. They held you down and branded you with a runic F. You are forsaken. You won’t be at Branderscar Prison for long. Branderscar is only a holding pen. In three days – justice comes. In three days – everything ends.

What a pity. If only there was a way out of this stinking rat-hole. If only there was a way to escape. If only…
No.

No one has ever escaped from Branderscar Prison. This is where your story ends
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Important Rule: This may be an evil game, but please respect all RPGcrossing rules.

Who am I?
I am Hound. I’ve been a member of this site for 11 years. I’ve been a DM for 20 years and a player for 25. I hope to bring my many years of experience to run a game you enjoy.

Who am I looking for?
I am looking for 4 players. Players who will commit to at least one post per week. You and your character will need to be ambitious. There will be plenty of down time where weeks or even months may pass. You need to be thinking about your character and what they get up to. How strong you become, how wealthy, how many minions you have, it will all be dependent on how much you seek it out. Example: If you want to be a lich, well you need to be proactive during your down time. I won't just hand it to you on a silver platter, but it is totally do-able. The only limits are your ambition.

I also want Players who will promise to at least alert me when they are having a real life problems when time permits so we at least know what is happening. Please do not apply if you’re going to vanish on me or go a full month without posting and then say something like “I forgot” or “I wasn’t feeling it.” If there is a problem. If you’re confused, lost, unsure, not enjoying something, I hope you will talk to me so maybe we can fix the problem, rather than letting the problem fester and then you quit. If you do not think you can keep this simple promise, please do not apply.

What will you be playing?
You are playing a villain. Obviously.

Below is the information needed to build a character. Character sheets are not required until after you are accepted.

Level: You will be starting at level 3.

Traits: As per the standard rules, you will need to find a crime trait within the player’s handbook that your character has specifically committed and been sentenced for.

You may have a total of 2 traits, including the crime trait, and if you take a maximum of 1 drawback you may have a 3rd trait as normal.

House Rules: I play with the custom house rules of background skills and elephant in the room.

Wealth: 0 GP. Everything you had was stripped from you when you were arrested. You've been shipped half-way across the continent. You have nothing at the start.

Health: Max each level

Stat Array: Your characters will have been absurdly high starting array of 18, 18, 16, 16, 14, 14.

There are two reasons for this. The first reason is that this will be Gestalt game. The high stat array will allow class combinations that are not necessarily common or easy to do. For example, an Urban Barbarian/Wizard is possible with that absurd stat array.

The second, is that I want there to be no excuse for you to have a "dumb" character who purposely makes bad choices cause it's "what my character would do."

Alignment: All players must be lawful evil. No other evil will be accepted.

Classes: All core, base, hybrid, unchained, occult and alternate classes are accepted with 2 exceptions: Paladins are strictly forbidden while Anti-paladins must be in the service of Asmodeus and thus Lawful Evil. Any other alignment restriction that a class may otherwise have is ignored.

Races: The races are heavily restricted. Humans, Elves, Half-elves, Half-Orcs, Dwarves, Gnomes, Halflings, Changlings, Aasimar, Tiefling, Ifrit, Oread, Undine, and lastly Sylph are the only races allowed. I strongly recommend "Appears human" for the outsider descended races. Less so for Aasimar. More so for Tiefling.

Read the following spoiler to learn why.
 


Lastly, here are some good examples of intelligent, ambitious, and skillful Villains you should keep in mind when making your characters:

Xanatos from Gargoyles. Sher Khan from Tailspin. The King Pin from Marvel Comics. Lex Luthor from DC Comics. Doctor Doom from Marvel Comics. Doctor Octopus from Marvel comics... you know what, if they have Doctor in their name, they're probably a good example. Gus Fring from Breaking Bad. I'm sure you can think of a million more villains who are able to make wise decisions and work well with other villains to achieve your goal.

ApplicationPlease include the following at minimum, feel free to have fun:

Name:
Race:
Age:
General Appearance: Feel free to include a photo, but include things like is the character supposed to be tall, short, fat, skinny, buff, handsome, ugly, etc...
Concept Idea: You could tell me your classes, what role you would want to play in the party, or just a general concept idea.
Crime: what is it you did to land yourself on death row?

Story: This is the real crux of your application. Each and everyone one of you was captured by the heroic, Sir Balin, Knight of The Alerion Order. He is a powerful fighter and skilled investigator. He sniffed out your crimes, disrupted your schemes, and brought you in alive for execution. Your job is to describe the event in question. What crime or activity were you up to when he showed up and kicked your teeth in? By the end of the application, I want to truly believe that this Sir Balin is someone you truly hate. More so, I want to believe you wish Talingarde to suffer, to burn, to pay for what it did to you.

The following is information that may help you in writing your story.
 



Applicants
I will post applicants here.

Player Character Name Role Crime Status
Double or Nothing Zeren Gulzeth Charming Caster Consorting with Dark Powers(Witchcraft) Complete
triedtherest Midas bin Koil Wealth Generator Slave Trading Complete
abc123 Selene "The Shade" Vael Problem Solver Murder Complete
namo Trystan Elessor Broken Hearted Attempted Murder Complete
The Rat Queen Lady Gwenfrewi Swansea Eyes on the Prize Consorting with Dark Powers(Witchcraft) Complete
Grouchy Orm Cobra Commander Extortion Complete
Squeak Vanya Mistweave Self-taught Caster Murder Complete
MundayKnight Katalyn Fairwing Tragic Forlorn Love Dueling until Death Complete
Imveros Israfel Nalio Eco Terrorist Arson Complete
Classic Gamer Kel Storm Hell knight Heresy Complete
mightymconeshot Sastran Shadowbringer Anarchist Arson Complete
Ath Bendy of Talingarde Yandere Girlfriend Heresy Complete
Admin Dirk Seraphina Tenebris Popular Preacher Heresy Complete
Yas392 Nocturne Shamanigans Murder WIP


FAQ
I will repost questions that seem like they might be helpful to others here.
  • May I use Spheres of Power or Path of War? No.
  • May I play any other third party material? To be assessed on a case by case scenario. Sell me on your concept. If I buy the character idea and accept you into the game, then we can discuss the mechanics and why you think it can only be brought to life using this specific 3rd party material.
  • May I use prestige classes? Yes. Qualify as normal. If their is a conflict in the rules because of gestalt, we'll discuss how to correct.
  • May I use a god other than Asmodeus? It is possible, but narratively difficult. The core of the game is signing a contract with Asmodeus and serving him. Evil gods usually aren't good at sharing.
  • How are Animal Companions or Familiars handled? Handled on a case by case basis. You likely will not have immediate access to them due to being in prison unless you have a special ability to get around this. If they aren't smart enough to know how to hide and come when summoned, then its possible they were killed during your arrest and will need to be replaced. Again, we will assess on a case by case basis. There will be plenty of cool creatures to try and tame if that is your thing.
  • May I have multiple animal companions? I would tentatively say yes. You will eventually have your own armies of henchmen. I don't see having one extra wolf or one extra bear will be a big issues. That said, you will need to be intelligent on how you use them. The reason huge animals usually aren't allowed is because they rarely fit inside buildings.
    What's the deal with the free feats? Players selected to play will be allowed [1] free general feat or racial feat that helps flesh out their character based on their history, story, and role. For example, if you write a story where you're a great swimmer and strong climber, you'll get Athletic for free. At level 7, all players will receive the "Leadership" feat free, though it won't work as per written. Details to come when we reach that stage.
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This idea intrigues me, but I don’t intend to apply quickly because I want to do much research first.
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Would the 3rd party Spheres classes be allowed? They're balanced and help with the spell bloat.

Name: Zeren Gulzeth
Race: Human
Age: 24
General Appearance:
 

Zeren is fastidious about his appearance, taking advantage of his magic to 'tidy up' by using spells to shave, clean his clothing, etc. Spending most of his time indoors has left his skin pale, and he keeps himself cleanshaven, finding facial hair too itchy.

Zeren’s hedonistic excesses have yet to affect his looks and he’s still a handsome youth with a charming smile and slim figure. But there’s a hunger in his green eyes and the most common expression on his face is cruel amusement. He keeps his black hair short and neatly combed, not wanting it to cover up more of his good looks than it needs to.

Concept Idea: Flamboyant spellcasting face character. In terms of Zeren's role I was thinking of going with a Phoenix Bloodline Sorcerer/Lore Oracle Gestalt.

That would let him handle blasting, knowledge checks, face skills, and some healing depending on what the party needs.

Crime: Consorting with dark powers.

Story: When Zeren’s powers manifested the Church of Mitra claimed him and took him to the religious training academy in The Vale, proclaiming that he was clearly meant to live a life of service. They promised his parents (a pair of middle-class merchants) that Zeren would be well cared for, educated by the finest tutors, and could one day rise high in the church hierarchy as a benevolent healer. Clearly he had been blessed by Mitra with these abilities and was destined for a life of selfless service.

Zeren didn’t see it that way. He absorbed knowledge like a sponge and his teachers had nothing but praise for his magical abilities (even if they were unnerved by something they couldn’t quite put their fingers on when he tried to persuade others), but Zeren had no intention of becoming some celibate monk unable to use the power he possessed for himself. Not just that, but he could feel a fundamental wrongness with the Church of Mitra's teachings. Zeren's powers as a Sorcerer were born of the purifying powers of flame, but his Oracle abilities (and the curse that came with them) came from a far darker source that pushed him to use his powers for himself.

Zeren's frustrations mounted. He was a Lore Oracle, but the Church of Mitra was intent on limiting knowledge they deemed blasphemous and stifled the expression of ideas contrary to their teachings. What was the point of knowing things if he couldn't talk about them or use them? Why were those born to royal families treated like they were better than him just because of who their parents were? He had powers far beyond any noble he knew, was more knowledgeable than the majority of them, why should they rule him other than that being the way things always were? Talingarde's aristocracy was corrupt and incompetent, clearly new leadership was needed from among those more worthy of power.

But challenging the status quo, especially relating to the royal family was heretical and treasonous so Zeren had to keep his thoughts to himself. Bottling his feelings didn't work, so he started acting out. The Church responded to Zeren’s infractions (which ranged from smuggling wine into the monastery, cheating on tests, and playing Devil’s advocate in debates on scripture to getting caught reading blasphemous tomes and questioning the ban on certain religions) with increasing severity, culminating in him being whipped in front of his fellow acolytes as penance.

That was the breaking point for Zeren, he waited for as long as he could bear it and then he ran away. Needing money, Zeren tried to find work as a mercenary, but lacked the experience to be worth hiring. Zeren ended up drifting from town to town, subsisting on charity and silently raging over the unfairness of life. And the dark whispers in the back of his mind got louder, telling him of how this was all the fault of the moralistic, weak-minded bullies in the Church of Mitra and the self-serving and unworthy rulers of Talingarde.

Then he found a place where he could put his talents to use. A cult of Asmodeus needed another spellcaster to help summon a devil to the Material Plane. Zeren offered his services (for a price), only for the ritual to be raided by witch hunters of the Mitran church led by Sir Balin of Karfeld. Zeren was far too weak a spellcaster to summon a devil himself (he'd have been channeling his powers to the main cultist during the ritual), but somehow his frantic attempts to finish the summoning himself when the witch hunters attacked managed to call up a Bearded Devil. The fiend bowed to him and then leaped to his defense, but was quickly dispatched along with the rest of the cult.

Zeren managed to run, but the witch hunters had magic and numbers on their side and soon he was surrounded. He attempted to blast his way to freedom, only to to be caught by Sir Balin and beaten to the ground. His eye were level with the knight's boots when he was kicked back into a standing position and had manacles clapped on his wrists. The last thing Zeren heard before being led away in chains was “May Mitra have mercy upon your wretched, damned soul.”

Zeren tried to claim he had been kidnapped and forced to assist the cult, but his lies were easily disproven by the fact he'd summoned a Devil and a Discern Lies spell. The whispers in Zeren's head returned, Sir Balin just had brute force and numbers on his side, if Zeren had the same power he'd have triumphed. The knight was yet another bully and symbolic of how Talingarde treated those with worthy ambition.

For that and the 'F' brand now scarring his body Zeren is determined to have revenge on Sir Balin, the Church of Mitra, and Talingarde and force them to acknowledge his greatness no matter what he needs to do. Given the chance he'd join with whoever promised him the power and glory he feels he deserves, especially if it comes at the expense of those he sees as unworthy.

Personality: Zeren is a selfish and greedy hedonist who hungers for life’s pleasures, knowledge, political and magical power, and the adoration (or at least fear) of others. He's eloquent and well-read (and will not let you forget it), loves the sound of his own voice, and will say whatever it takes to persuade those he's talking to that they should do as he says. He'd rather make a friend than an enemy but will switch from flattery to threats in an instant and kill without remorse if he thinks violence will be more effective.

Beyond material wealth Zeren also craves a noble title. He’s seen the uselessness of the nobility and believes himself to be far more deserving of becoming royalty than the wastes of space currently living in palaces and mansions. And it would be yet another accomplishment to feed his ego and a launching point for ever-higher ambitions.

Which leads into yet another one of Zeren’s desires: immortality. The power he possesses as an Oracle and Sorcerer and his love of physical pleasures has made Zeren unwilling to accept death as an end. He’s certain that he can find a method to extend his life indefinitely, he just needs to figure out a method that won’t require him to give up power or pleasure.

Zeren has a few positive traits. When he genuinely likes someone he's a loyal friend and won't betray a group he's part of unless they betray him first out of a twisted sense of professionalism.

The way Zeren’s life unfolded (represented by being both an Oracle and a Sorcerer) could be seen as auspicious, but he doesn’t see it that way. He doesn’t believe he has a destiny, he believes he has to seize every opportunity to get what he wants and can’t just rely on fate.

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Welcome Double or Nothing!

Zeren is an excellent character! Top notch with our first applicant. I really like his story and I can think of a lot of things I could do to help build his story. Good job.

Regarding the question about Spheres of Power. I did not include them or the Path of War set of rules as I do not personally like them. That's the only reason. Thanks for asking.
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Name: Midas bin Koil

Race: Human (Focused Study Bonus Alternate Racial Trait)

Class: (Side 1) Unchained Rogue (Phantom Thief), possibly going into the Noble Scion Prestige Class if he can make the prerequisites

Class: (Side 2) Alchemist (Mindchemist)

Intended Role: Skill monkey, Crafter, Blaster, Buffer, Battlefield Controller, Healer, Face, Wealth Generator, Supplier

Alignment: Lawful-Evil.

Crime: Gain +1 skill point per level, that must be spent on the Appraise SkillSlave Trading

Traits:
-Use Int modifier for Use Magic Device instead of ChaPragmatic Activator
-Choose one Cha based skill. You attempt checks with that skill using your Int instead of your ChaClever Wordplay

Drawback:
-You take a –2 penalty on Will saving throws against charm and compulsion effects if the creature creating the effect promises wealth or power.Power Hungry

 

 

 

 

 


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Name: Selene "The Shade" Vael
Race: Human
Age: 23

General Appearance: Selene is like a shadow given human form: lean, poised, and eerily composed. Her raven black hair is cut short, framing a face both striking and cold. Her pale grey eyes are devoid of warmth, always watching, always calculating. She moves with effortless grace, every step deliberate, every move precise. Though often clad in dark, practical clothing suited for stealth, there is an undeniable elegance for how she carries herself. An artist of death, crafting each kill with the precision of a sculptor chiseling away imperfections

Concept Idea: Selene is an arcane assassin who blends magic with precise, surgical strikes. Probably a Rogue/Sorcerer Gestalt, she operates as a ghost, silent, unseen, and utterly lethal. Her role in the party is stealth specialist, illusionist, and killer.

Crime: Murder and High Treason - Selene assassinated Lord Ardyn Valcrest, a noble of Talingarde and a staunch servant of Mitra. He was found in his locked study, throat cut, with no signs of a forced entry. The perfect crime, until Sir Balin caught her.

Personality: Selene is ice-cold precision, every word and action measured for effect. She is neither cruel nor needlessly sadistic. Violence is simply a means to an end, a tool she wields with the same detachment as a painter holds a brush. She does not kill recklessly, or for pleasure, but for the artistry of it. The challenge of the perfect execution. To her, the ideal kill is one where the victim never even suspects their own death until it's too late. Bloodshed is not chaos, it is elegance. But beneath that controlled exterior simmers pride, resentment, and the insatiable desire for vengeance. Being caught, humiliated, and sentenced to death has done more than wound her ego. It has fueled an unyielding hatred for Sir Balin and the faith he serves. She is patient. She is calculating. And she is waiting for the moment when the chains break, the tables turn, and the hunted becomes the hunter once more.

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Name: Trystan Elessor
Race: Human
Age: 28

Concept Idea Debuffer (Fear specialist), Melee Tank. Class-wise, a Mesmerist | Antipaladin gestalt most likely.

Crime: Attempted murder

 


 

 

 

 


 

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PS: sneaky way to ask for spheres of might archetype
While there may be some third party material I will allow, for example the unchained ninja variant, I would generally say no. I am specifically trying to avoid spheres and path of war.
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Applicants table and FAQ are updated.

A big welcome to triedtherest, abc123, and namo!

Some very cool ideas right out of the gate. Each one hits the mark. I'm very impressed.
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Thanks! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to buff up Selene's application.
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Will be applying. Tried the playing this twice, but they both ended way prematurely (never got out of prison).

Concept will be enchantment focused, possibly clerical. I gotta figure it all out. Gesalt is hard.

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In terms of Zeren's role I was thinking of going with a Phoenix Bloodline Sorcerer/Lore Oracle Gestalt.

That would let him handle blasting, knowledge checks, and some healing depending on what the party needs.

Should we make character sheets now to post with our applications?
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In terms of Zeren's role I was thinking of going with a Phoenix Bloodline Sorcerer/Lore Oracle Gestalt.

That would let him handle blasting, knowledge checks, and some healing depending on what the party needs.

Should we make character sheets now to post with our applications?
I won't stop you from making a character sheet if you're excited, but I did state in the advertisement that it is not required for selection. This is primarily because I do like to have a session 0 one on one discussion with people before they get too far into the crunchy.

We'll use your character as an example. The sorcerer side, it doesn't really matter which blood line you choose, (Phoenix is by the way super cool and I really like it.), because regardless of your blood line, it doesn't dictate who you are.

On the other hand, the oracle stands out. Its less about the random mutation appearing in your genetic cold, and more about being selected by a god for a purpose.

As this is a book all about Asmodeus, I would assume that logically you're an Oracle of Asmodeus. In that case, the mysteries Lore, Flame, Reaper, Dark Tapestry, they all make more sense. You wouldn't be an oracle of Asmodeus with the Life or nature mysteries. Likewise, your Curse would most likely be Legalistic. Now, if you were a flame mystery, having a blackened curse also makes a lot of sense, but Demonic or Ghoul wouldn't

These are the minor things I would likely talk to you about one on one when moving to the character construction phase.

I hope this makes sense and doesn't feel too restrictive.
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Will be applying. Tried the playing this twice, but they both ended way prematurely (never got out of prison).

Concept will be enchantment focused, possibly clerical. I gotta figure it all out. Gesalt is hard.
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