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Old Aug 15th, 2011, 04:44 PM
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Considering all my knowledge ranks (every one at +9 except for Nobility, Engineering, and Geography, which are at +4), do I identify any of the others? Assume that I use my Lore Master ability to take 10 on any of those checks.
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Old Aug 15th, 2011, 06:16 PM
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Considering all my knowledge ranks (every one at +9 except for Nobility, Engineering, and Geography, which are at +4), do I identify any of the others? Assume that I use my Lore Master ability to take 10 on any of those checks.
Any of the other whom? Do you mean players?

I suppose that might be moot, though. Everyone is in costume, so you could possibly use Arcana to figure out Heilan is dressed as and that's about it (because of the masks and all).
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Old Aug 15th, 2011, 06:58 PM
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Oh, just making sure in case any of the PCs are already famous in their own rights.
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Old Aug 15th, 2011, 09:46 PM
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I'm not saying there aren't, just that you currently have no idea of knowing because of the costumes. Ossicar and maybe Tania's family might pop up on the nobility radar (he did blow up his well know family after all).

You should also take note Grazzt that your Lore Master ability does not function like a normal bard's.

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Lore Master (Ex)

At 2nd level, an archivist may take 20 on Knowledge checks once per day, plus once per six levels beyond 2nd.

This ability replaces versatile performance.
You don't actually get the ability to take 10 on knowledges checks through your version of that ability.
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Old Aug 15th, 2011, 11:25 PM
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Just a thought that occurred to me, which may more may not be useful here. Because it doesn't affect anyone but me, I'll put it in secret text.



Also: Heyyyy...how come I'm gonna be murdered?
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Old Aug 16th, 2011, 12:29 AM
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Cause you diddled the doodles?
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Hah...yeah, I did do that.
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You should also take note Grazzt that your Lore Master ability does not function like a normal bard's.


You don't actually get the ability to take 10 on knowledges checks through your version of that ability.
Oh, I had found this online when I was making the character:

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I should tell you that the "Archivist can't take 10" thing is an error in the RAW. The Lore Master ability was meant to be just shifted in level, not actually changed. When I was writing the archetype, for some reason I didn't retype the full ability. I should've simply written it like this:

Lore Master (Ex): An archivist gains this ability at 2nd level rather than 5th level.

Just putting a pointer to the normal bard ability would've avoided any omission or ambiguity. If you are a player, you can tell the GM this is the RAI and an error by the author of the section that should've been the RAW. However, I am not the official errata-giver, so if the GM is a stickler for official errata (or none at all), you are out of luck.
From the Paizo website.

I hadn't even noticed until that point (I think I had been looking up something else when I came across it), so I figured you wouldn't notice or care either.

So what's your verdict? Rules As Written or Rules As Intended?
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@Dragonsnack: I am fairly certain that I got your last post right (you asked some random noble person a question). I read your post several times to try and make sure I was getting that right. I wanted to play with it a little because it seemed like fun.
It works fine for me! Tania is just trying to mingle, and to see who is here who might be attached to power (the wives and daughters of any powerful figures in the city, particularly!).
I have a similar question to Grazzt's - is it possible to get some hints about who is who in this ball just by listening in on the details they give away about themselves? That's what Tania was thinking of doing, but if the big event has started it might all be moot...

As an aside, would like to be concealing a dagger and thieves' tools, nothing else I think.
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Oh, I had found this online when I was making the character:



From the Paizo website.

I hadn't even noticed until that point (I think I had been looking up something else when I came across it), so I figured you wouldn't notice or care either.

So what's your verdict? Rules As Written or Rules As Intended?
Well, apparently you linking it broke the site, so I am going to have to say RAW. I'll take a look at the link and let you know what I decide when it decides to cooperate.

@Aosaw: Nothing to see here folks...
And you get to die because I rolled a dice and somebody had to come up.

@Dragonsnack: Basically now, the night has been set in motion, you can attempt to get out of going on the garden murder mystery tour (like Ossicar...although, you might want to be better at it than he was), or you can go in. You should have plenty of time to interact with some folks though.
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@Aosaw: I am assuming that Diplomacy check is headed Eden's way? I was just a little confused because in theory there are three woman currently standing center stage with you (Eden, Tania, and Shiari).
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Er. Yes. Yes, it was meant for Eden.

I don't make diplomacy checks with PCs.

Unless I do.
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Oops. It wasn't my intention to not go into the garden mystery thingy... I have edited my post to show that I did indeed want to go. It was late and I am sorry for any mix-up due to poor wording.
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Oops. It wasn't my intention to not go into the garden mystery thingy... I have edited my post to show that I did indeed want to go. It was late and I am sorry for any mix-up due to poor wording.
I see. Well, I assume under the assumption you weren't going to play along but I get I won't get to use that post now. I'll just stick the women fawning all over you back in my bag of dastardly gm tricks.

The clarification is good, though. Makes my life easier.

I will have another post up tomorrow...I unfortunately took a nap and now all I want to do is keep sleeping so that is what I am off to do.
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