[OOC] Weasel's Bar and Grill

[Everlasting]

Originally Posted by Muggins

He doesn't have 4 levels of fighter, and therefore doesn't qualify for Weapon Specialisation (and, lacking proficiency in the Bastard Sword, doesn't qualify for Weapon Focus either).
If he's wielding it two-handed, it's -1 attack for +3 damage (not -1 for +2).


Pardon me, but that's not the case.

It is an exotic weapon. Regardless of how it is wielded, it is always considered an exotic weapon for the purposes of feats and abilities.

Uhm...not to open a can of worms, Muggins, but on the list you provided, if you scroll down to the Bastard Sword description in the link you provided, it says a Bastard Sword may be wielded with two hands as a martial weapon, and in one as exotic, which would let all his abilities use it as a martial weapon, right? The wording says it "Can be used in two hands as a martial weapon". I played Temple of Elemental Evil a lot through High School, and I had a Rogue with a bastard sword (don't ask! It worked!) and took no penalties on using it with two hands. So I think it would apply in all ways as a martial weapon...they probably only put it on one chart to avoid confusion...in which it has ultimately caused.

[Muggins]

The sneaky bastard sword is a totally legitimate weapon. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Moridain]

In my games it is usually easier to consider it a two handed martial weapon for all intents and purposes. It has the ability to be used in a one hand if you spend a feat, but otherwise it is a two handed martial.

However as a two handed martial it is pretty sub par compared to a greatsword, and the only people who ever take it are those seeking a one handed weapon and they spend a feat for it.

This is why this has never come up for me before...

[InsaneFox]

Originally Posted by Muggins

The sneaky bastard sword is a totally legitimate weapon. I don't know what you're talking about.

Seconded, you can maul face with a stealthy Str-Based rogue.

[Weasel Whisperer]

Well, it's time for me to get back to mauling your faces. Back to battle we go.

[Everlasting]

I'd rather my face not be mauled!

[Weasel Whisperer]

It's cake or death Monday, and we're all out of cake.

[Muggins]

Pardon me.

Originally Posted by Muggins

Can I swap some of my Meta-Bullet feats for something else? I don't feel like their original descriptions match what they actually do. For one thing, they didn't all consume powder.

[Weasel Whisperer]

No, pardon me. As DM, I will get to it when I'm ready.

[2nd Chance]

Things gonna freeze, things gonna freeze. Tralalalala.

Need to work on the tune a bit, but you get the idea.

[Moridain]

I could empty the lake they are in if I had ten minutes or so and was willing to waste all my mana on it, but otherwise I can't do anything to get them to surface and face us.

The best idea I have right now is to just leave the way we came in. They are big enough that they won't be able to follow us up the stairs and there are other paths to follow. Also we have no real beef with these guys.

[MundayKnight]

I am already swimming with them, me wants murder fishy lizard men.

[Moridain]

Between you and miss KILL IT WITH ICE the fight is pretty inevitable.

But Mel thinks it is at least worth a try.

[2nd Chance]

Originally Posted by Djxyz2

"Hmmmmm well this isn't what I was hoping for." Mercuio mumbles. The other two devourers were much larger than the previous one, but the three of them were now in a triangle, almost perfect for Mercuio could he get close enough. He had not yet been able to walk on water so there was that problem. He watched the ice princess cast another spell and and idea came to his mind.
"Chioni, is it possible for you to freeze the water in anyway near those monsters so I could get face to face with them be it even for only a few seconds." he yells to her hoping she understood what he had in mind. He'd only need just enough ice to be able to stand on for about three seconds then he could unleash a flurry of blows on the devourers and probably take them out.
"If that doesn't work, I'll just have to wait for them to come to me." he mumbles
He did have another plan involving Hervog but the giant man had disappeared beneath the water, but Mercuio was not worried after all he was sure his brother had faced much worse.

How about a Wall of Ice covering 12 10'x10' squares on the surface of the water? Anchoring them in some fashion to opposing walls of the cavern, that would work, right? Also, if they destroy the segments and move through them, they'll take additional cold damage!

[InsaneFox]

You know, I've never actually been in a game where somebody used wall of ice to make a floor.