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Old Jan 3rd, 2023, 10:18 AM
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Posting interest. How would you feel about a half-elf whose elf half is drow?
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Old Jan 3rd, 2023, 10:31 AM
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Posting interest. How would you feel about a half-elf whose elf half is drow?
I'm fine with half-elf, but the elf half being drow...

I'm not sure if I want that.
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Old Jan 3rd, 2023, 12:57 PM
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Working on my app, and I'm getting interested in the Mute Musician bard archetype. I'm thinking my character would have had some traumatic experience in their past that makes them now unable to talk. I'm hoping to use a combination of body language/description, music and occasional use of magic such as ghost sound to communicate. I think it could work out well but wanted to see what your thoughts are.
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Old Jan 3rd, 2023, 01:22 PM
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I'm fine with half-elf, but the elf half being drow...

I'm not sure if I want that.
Understandable, I know the race carries a lot of baggage. I can get most of the flavor I was going for with a half-orc instead.
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So I've been working on building my character since even if I don't get picked, I get a lot of enjoyment out of looking through all the possibilities. I've been considering taking Exotic Heritage and Eldritch Heritage (Sylvan) for an animal companion, but I've seen some arguments that it doesn't work specifically for Sylvan because of its text mentioning bloodline arcana.

Animal Companion (Ex): At 1st level, you gain an animal companion. Your effective druid level for this ability is equal to your sorcerer level 3 (minimum 1st).

This bloodline power counts as your bloodline arcana and also replaces laughing touch.

I figured rather than reading through a bunch of angry nerds arguing over it, I'll just ask what your ruling on it is.
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So I've been working on building my character since even if I don't get picked, I get a lot of enjoyment out of looking through all the possibilities. I've been considering taking Exotic Heritage and Eldritch Heritage (Sylvan) for an animal companion, but I've seen some arguments that it doesn't work specifically for Sylvan because of its text mentioning bloodline arcana.

Animal Companion (Ex): At 1st level, you gain an animal companion. Your effective druid level for this ability is equal to your sorcerer level 3 (minimum 1st).

This bloodline power counts as your bloodline arcana and also replaces laughing touch.

I figured rather than reading through a bunch of angry nerds arguing over it, I'll just ask what your ruling on it is.
Huh. Well, where do I have to look this into? I'd like to read more about this before I can come up with a decision.
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Huh. Well, where do I have to look this into? I'd like to read more about this before I can come up with a decision.
Well I think it's mostly an argument as to whether or not the phrase "counts as" has the same effect as "replaces". Eldritch Heritage only gives the bloodline power, and doesn't mess with an arcana. I can see the animal companion needing both because that's the intention in the archetype itself, but the counts as phrase is throwing me off. If you want to read the argument people had over it, here's the link. https://paizo.com/threads/rzs439z9?E...ritch-Heritage

I could just take Nature Soul at first then get the Animal Ally feat later for the same-ish effect at a later level, but the animal companion itself isn't really tied to my character so much as the concept of Eldritch Heritage for my Sorcerer-adjacent character. I don't mind either way since I can just look through other bloodlines to potentially dip into.
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Well I think it's mostly an argument as to whether or not the phrase "counts as" has the same effect as "replaces". Eldritch Heritage only gives the bloodline power, and doesn't mess with an arcana. I can see the animal companion needing both because that's the intention in the archetype itself, but the counts as phrase is throwing me off. If you want to read the argument people had over it, here's the link. https://paizo.com/threads/rzs439z9?E...ritch-Heritage

I could just take Nature Soul at first then get the Animal Ally feat later for the same-ish effect at a later level, but the animal companion itself isn't really tied to my character so much as the concept of Eldritch Heritage for my Sorcerer-adjacent character. I don't mind either way since I can just look through other bloodlines to potentially dip into.
Dang, that's a nerd fight alright. You love to see it.

As for my ruling, I still don't know what to think about the whole thing, so I'll just say that it's probably much better to not do this. Sorry about that.
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Dang, that's a nerd fight alright. You love to see it.

As for my ruling, I still don't know what to think about the whole thing, so I'll just say that it's probably much better to not do this. Sorry about that.
It's totally fine, I'm incredibly indecisive and you telling me something isn't okay just helps me narrow down my decisions even more.
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Working on my app, and I'm getting interested in the Mute Musician bard archetype. I'm thinking my character would have had some traumatic experience in their past that makes them now unable to talk. I'm hoping to use a combination of body language/description, music and occasional use of magic such as ghost sound to communicate. I think it could work out well but wanted to see what your thoughts are.
Well, you are free to put that for your application.

Also, I can see this niche for martial-oriented character hasn't been filled yet. Why not try this out? For those who haven't submitted their applications, of course.
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By the way -- my character is a martial oriented character, much more so than a caster. (Will wear heavy armor, have high strength, spend more time whacking things than casting spells.)

Maybe, Maya, you could include what role you think characters are competing for in your table.

(You may find people try to claim as many roles as possible. Metagaming? Maybe. :-) )
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By the way -- my character is a martial oriented character, much more so than a caster. (Will wear heavy armor, have high strength, spend more time whacking things than casting spells.)

Maybe, Maya, you could include what role you think characters are competing for in your table.

(You may find people try to claim as many roles as possible. Metagaming? Maybe. :-) )
Hmm... sounds like a good idea.

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What's her archetype?

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What if they're an equal mix of magic and martial? What if they have martial options that are magical in nature? (Kinetic Blade, in my case).

I'd probably say magical, still, now that I think about it. Especially since she'll eventually have Magical Tail numerous times.

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What if they're an equal mix of magic and martial? What if they have martial options that are magical in nature? (Kinetic Blade, in my case).

I'd probably say magical, still, now that I think about it. Especially since she'll eventually have Magical Tail numerous times.
I'd say magical, though that depends on what you actually have in mind for this adventure.
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