[PF-2e] Thrum

[gwythion]

Expressing interest, but curious- free archetype but no multiclassing - do you mean that we can't spend our archetype feats on another class dedication?

[Atalla Wanderer]

Originally Posted by gwythion

Expressing interest, but curious- free archetype but no multiclassing - do you mean that we can't spend our archetype feats on another class dedication?

I mean you skip using a feat slot for the dedication feat, and instead can jump right into the chosen archetype's feats.

When I say "no multiclassing" I mean nothing like Fighter 3 / Wizard 4. A fighter with a magical archetype, or a wizard with a martial archetype is a-okay.

[gwythion]

You can't divide class levels like that in Pathfinder 2nd ed. at all, as far as I knew, archetype feats are the only way to multiclass. But free dedication feat is cool.

[Exeter]

Monk Name: Nandae Conor Ancestry: Tengu Class: Monk Weapon: Exquisite Sword Cane Age: 26 Height: 5'6 Description: Nandae exhibits the standard racial traits of Tengu, black feathers and eyes with large healthy beak. His cloths are a simple monk garb with a dark blue dye and golden trim. He prefers to not wear shoes, adding to his humble appearance. The sword he caries contrasts his simple attire, a delicately detailed sword cane with gold details. A family heirloom. Personality: Nandae is an adventures and curious. He is happy to explore the world, take on work as needed or simply help others in need. He has no desire to settle down anywhere, the open road his his home. He keeps a detailed diary so that he can someday share his adventures and findings with other Tengu who no nothing of the greater world. I'm also new to Pathfinder 2e, I've played several 1st edition game. I'll read up / watch some vids on it.

[Atalla Wanderer]

@ gwythion - absolutely, but I figured it would be a fair forwarning for anyone familiar with PF1e and curious about switching to PF2e. Multi-classing like that was fairly popular in PF1e's heyday.

@ Exeter - welcome! If you've got any questions, let me know!

[Ysolde]

Name: Joy Hillstrider

Class: Cleric of Sheylyn

Description: Joy has golden hair and blue eyes. She's four foot tall and is accustomed to wearing boots with at least a two inch heel. There's almost always a smile on her face.

Bio: Joy was born to a clan of nomadic Hin/Halflings that traveled about and performed. She's been on the road all her life every day a new horizon and always looking for new beauty in things. She can't rightly recall when she first heard the call of Shelyn, but her family always worshipped her and Joy's abilities were always celebrated. Still, as her clerical powers grew she knew she needed to go out on her own and spread joy and love and how lucky was it that her name was also Joy?

She sees the advertisement and she's immediately happy to help. After all, how can love and happiness thrive while undead are mucking things up?

[HenryLockwood]

Well, Nikolai just started writing himself! Please share feedback; if there's anything you'd like added, just let me know.

Application Name: Nikolai Ivanovic Class: Champion of Pharasma (shining oath) Background: Necromancer's Apprentice. Ustalav's a grim place. To survive, you have to be quick or tough, preferably both. Either that, or be in charge. My da was neither: he was a cobbler, and not a bad one, but he didn't have the strength or the brains to fight his way out of debt. They came calling, the dead-men, and he gave up one of his children to save the others. Off I went, apprentice to Mordan the Dark, and learned to raise the dead. I learned to lie as well, to pretend I loved the work, to pretend I loved the power. Power isn't for me, not that sort of power. The dead are dead, and should stay that way. Mother visited, once. She cried when she left; she said I looked pale, and that she was sorry. I didn't cry. I was never that quick, so I had to be tough. I think I was twelve when I ran away. Time goes a bit funny when you only work with dead people. But I ran, and though Mordan set the dead-men after me, I had learned enough. I dodged the slow ones, and broke the quick ones, and I got away. I fled south, and west, and the adventures I had aren't worth the time to recount them. I fled, then I drifted; and I might have died a drifter had I not found Pharasma. She offered me a way; and in return, I offered her a pair of hands. I carry this sword and this shield for her. I am here, in the Shackles, because I heard the tales. Aid required; undead on the Island. I am here because the Lady of Graves wants the corpses laid to rest. I am here because of the thing that was never a lie. I find the undead... fascinating. Physical description: Nikolai is not tall, but he is broad and brawny. He wears a short beard, dark as his hair, and his face is pale - though unscarred. His magnetism comes from the strength of his gaze, often staying slightly too long - just long enough to be uncomfortable - rather than from good looks or charm. Of course, in the field he wears heavy armour; the undead will find you eventually, he reasons, so it is better to be armoured for when they come. Character sheet WIP: https://pathbuilder2e.com/launch.html?build=343744

[Nebula]

Name: Lady Satvi Tsao
Race: Human (Vudrani/Tien-Shu)
Class: Thaumaturge (Regalia and Tome)
Free Archetype: Mummy :3
Description: Dressed finely in elegant silks of yellow and white Satvi's lithe and curvaceous frame captivates most onlookers at first sight, the veil covering her face both enticing and impenetrable. Shimmering eyes, like tiny stars of golden light, shine from beyond the veil adorned with a large golden eye from which the sun's rays emerge. Her armor is aged yet well taken care of, as if passed down through the ages. She carries a khakkara with her, using it as a walking stick of sorts. A large tomb is clutched close to her chest with a gloved hand of thin fingers. Every inch of her body is covered in fabrics.
Background: Satvi has a pretty big secret to keep, being undead. However, the nature of her existence fascinates her. Her memories of the event blocked out, she ponders who or why this change happened. In these long years, she has done everything in order to further her research into undeath -and end those who deal in it.

[Seekr34]

I'm going to bow out, trying to fill out a character sheet has taken the fun out of it for me. I'm still not done. So, I guess I am gonna skip any pathfinder 2e games. Hope the game goes well for you.

[Atalla Wanderer]

Understood, Seekr. It's definitely meatier than 5e (which I regard as so wispy it's unplayable). The phone/chromebook app Pathbuilder has really made building a character sheet easier than puzzling it out by hand. Best of luck, and maybe we'll cross paths in the future.

[Seekr34]

Thanks. Besides 5e, I can do a character in 3.5 and pathfinder in just a few short hours, or a couple of hours, depending on the starting level. I really tried with pathfinder 2 e, but it was too much just to fill out a sheet.

Perhaps we'll see each other again.

[Tyeal]

Hrrm, some stuff competition here. Let's see how well my app fairs!

Character App Application Complete! Name: Morg Blackstar, The Red Storm Ancestry: Half-Orc Age: 26 Class: Druid Free Archetype: Martial Artist Appearance: Morg lacks the green tint of his brethren, having more pale Human skin. But retains the sharp fangs jutting out from his square jaw. His hair and beard are jet black, straight as an arrow, and typically kept loose or in a loose braid. His eyes tend to shift in color as fueled by his Nature magic. Typically from brown to green to blue then back again. His body almost natural molded itself into the brutish bulk most know Orcs for possessing, though he only occasionally uses such strength in a fight. It's most effective when he's trying scare or demoralize his opponents. Background: Left in the care of a Druidic Order Morg was an unusual case. No mention of who his parents were, no name, no information of any kind. Only having a gold chain far too big for his infant neck when he was discovered. Due to his appearance there were constant rumors floating about, within the Order itself and the handful of times he was sent to a nearby village or two for supplies. There was rarely a joyous union between anyone and an Orc, after all. Morg developed a thick skin to such biting words. Along with growing strong alarmingly fast in the many scraps he got himself in to with the local riff raff. It was rare when he came home unscathed. Such fighting spirit would grab the attention of Gursan Terrez, one of the Storm Order's leaders. He was a burly Dwarf that gained his magical might through combat training as well as heavy practice, believing that the body was a vessel for power. And the more honed your body, the more power you could harness. As a result of this mindset, Morg was able to keep pace with his fellows. Excelling in combat training even if his Nature magic was slow to develop. But all at once, his power bloomed violently within him. Awakening in the form of calling down a massive lightning bolt from a nearly clear sky, and splitting a tree down the middle. And very nearly causing the Order grounds to catch fire. After that moment, his Druidic potential was fully awoken. Having quite the knack for the more destructive side of Nature and all its elements. It was also this moment that had him selected to be a specialized agent for the Storm Order, and grant him permission to travel the world at large: The Red Storm. Since being granted that title Morg has gone on a number of missions to halt the over-reach of mankind into the natural world. Logging camps, large forges, poisonous costal towns, as well as killing a number of Necromancers and their forces. But now he was being given a very important task. To travel to the island of Singantis and aid in clearing out the Undead that have been cropping up in alarming number. His secondary goal would be to work to establish the Storm Order as the primary group of Druids to safeguard the island and bolster the resources yet untapped.   Level Standard Abilities Gradual Ability Boosts Free Archetypes Automatic Bonus Progression 1 Ancestry Feat (Orc Superstition), Background (Nomad) Wis, Con, Cha, Dex   2 Skill Feat (Intimidating Glare) Ability Boost to a Single Ability (Str) Archetype Feat (Martial Artist Dedication) Attack potency +1 3 General Feat (Incredible Initiative) Ability Boost to a Single Ability (Str) Skill potency (Nature +1) 4 Skill Feat (Intimidating Prowess) Ability Boost to a Single Ability (Con) Archetype Feat (Viking Dedication) Devastating attacks (two dice) 5 Ancestry Feat (Clever Improviser) Ability Boost to a Single Ability (Str) Defense potency +1 6 Skill Feat (Assured Identification: Nature) Archetype Feat (Bounty Hunter Dedication) Skill potency (Intimidate +1) 7 General Feat (Toughness) Ability Boost to a Single Ability (Wis) Perception potency +1

[Danilar]

Hello, I am quite new to this.

[QUOTE=Atalla Wanderer;9644946]This is what every character gets every level:


On top of that, each class gets class feats and class abilities at each level. Martial classes tend to get class feats every other level, and spellcasting classes have their class feats more spread out, so that's something to keep track of per character.

Free Archetype means whenever a character gains a class feat, they can choose from both their class feat list(s), and also their archetype list without having to spend a feat to dedicate themselves to an archetype.




With free archetype can I choose two archetype feats, instead of choosing an archetype feat and a class feat?

What does not having to spend a feat to dedicate to an archetype mean? Do I skip dedication feats in archetypes or was that just about having two separate slots to chose a class feat and a dedication feat?

[Atalla Wanderer]

I've been sick the past few days, but before I got sick I was talking with Vislands and was reminded I wanted to implement a few additional variant rules that I'd left out. SO, I've added those in above: Gradual Ability Boosts and Automatic Bonus Progression in additional to Free Archetypes.

And I realized I'd misread free archetypes, so I reworked my table above to be more comprehensive about what is available at each level. What I recommend for those selected or those who just want to practice making a PF2e character sheet, is take a look at the table in the spoiler button and copy-paste / quote that into your app, for the relevant levels, and then fill it in. That way when I'm checking your character sheets I can cross reference the table, and all of you can make sure you don't miss anything, any feats or bonuses.

Do you think that helps?

@ Danilar - Welcome! I remember when I was a yellow name, I was so new I only had confidence in my writing and didn't know a single rule about any of the games available.

With free archetypes, as far as I understand it, is that you'd get to skip the dedication feat and jump straight into the list, but you can only use archetype feats for feats from the archetype list. It's another column of feats available.

@ Tyeal - Welcome!


For everyone, working on a character sheet or stat table is Optional until selection, at which time it becomes mandatory. First and foremost, I'll be looking and judging based on the writing and the character presented.

EDIT: Also, if you are ready for a review let me know so I can take a look and provide feedback, or as further questions.

[Tyeal]

That sounds fairly helpful, including that table for cross-reference. Wouldn't want folks new or unfamiliar to PF 2e to feel underpowered or that they're missing something.

And I would appreciate a review. Always trying to make quality apps ^^