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Old Mar 10th, 2007, 08:18 PM
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2 flaws max... take em when you want, but I like history for stuff.. so how did you get shaky, or murky eyed down the oad during your career? fun story there.
Well, I only really need to shift one Flaw up. That should probably be Shaky - you could say that he has an uncontrollable muscle tic (a side effect of being big and strong) which is different from having a low Dexterity because he's not clumsy, but literally has trouble holding still when he's awake. This, naturally, tends to throw the aim off fine activities like lockpicking (he breaks locks), pickpocketing (definitely not his style) or... say... cocking your arm just right to send a whirling axe into someone's face.

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the vaulting function would be logical enough for any rigid weapon that has reach. a shield really clashes with the flavor of the vaulting idea though... in effort to not be competely cheesy, I'll say no shield.
Yeah, it does seem kind of dumb. It's a fair cop, though.

[QUOTE]Item familiar is fine. (its bee a while since I've seen item familiar stuff... can I have a write up on it from someone/an onlie link? I don't have the book.)[QUOTE]

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/ma...mFamiliars.htm

There we go...

Also, how are you with applying the half-Minotaur template? It make someone Large, for +1 LA and gives a bunch of stat boosts as well. I'm considering it because I think I may really need the stat boost.
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Old Mar 10th, 2007, 09:28 PM
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yer character is really startin to size up to be a beaty from Droaam, dargun, or the shadow marches if you add on the 1/2 minotaur template. I would say Darguun would be best, considering it's proximity to the mournland... you'd make a logical "pickup" character once in the mournland itself... but i you play up the titan ploodline, a Mount Celestia background may make sense as well.

I"m fine with the template unto itself. statistics are statistics. who cares. It's the flavor I want just right.
You could be a substitute that Lady Abosteil comes up with to replace Valeas. She eviently has a Heaven- related background that blends well with celestine. You could potentially even tag along after Bark to get into the mix in the later part of the Sharn tangent to retrieve Jaelith. That would secure you at 12th level.




hmmm.




Y'know.... You two are the only ones that have taken ANY interst in jumping into the fire, so yer both in. I may be crzy letting in a team of six people, but what the hell? I can really go overboard in encounters and just throw horrible things at all of you if we do that. But I want you guys to develop some good faction, blend into the team, and be proactive in driving this thing forward.


so no competing there between the two of you... just really knock this **** out of the park for everyone.... I'd say both of ye stick with heavy melee bruisers, and maintain yer value to the party by leading the way.
(eve notice how the fighter is normally the leader? It's like, he has to call the shots, because everyone else in the party can smoke him in a 1 on 1 fight.)
so six man team, 12th level.... ah this is going to break my balls keeping you guys challeged in combat. I'm not used to teams that large. hehe. Expect lots of DM abuse, unfair odds, in combat bullying tactics, and all around unfair fighting. I'll probably have to keep the foes huge hit points, lotta conditional immunities and weak damage per round.

This is all someone's fault.. I'm still going to blame tweedledope.
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Old Mar 10th, 2007, 09:39 PM
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oh, hey... regading item familiars... nix the xp bonus... you'll never lose it, so there is no risk, hence, no reward. everything else seems fair enough. blow extra feats for extra familiars. I don't care.
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Old Mar 11th, 2007, 01:22 AM
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oh, hey... regading item familiars... nix the xp bonus... you'll never lose it, so there is no risk, hence, no reward. everything else seems fair enough. blow extra feats for extra familiars. I don't care.
The XP was mainly going to be used for upgrading the item, but as a non-spellcaster I'm not going to use it for anything besides levelling up. So yeah.

And a Droaamite origin is definitely interesting. I've been wanting to play a primal beaty type for a while. With that in mind, I think I'l lcontinue the build on your wiki. Thanks!
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Old Mar 11th, 2007, 04:35 AM
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The XP was mainly going to be used for upgrading the item, but as a non-spellcaster I'm not going to use it for anything besides levelling up. So yeah.
Just because you can't cast spells doesn't mean you can't use XP to make items more cheaply. This is precisely why much of the group is purchasing Dedicated Wrights, and why Vintereth's spellbook includes Transference.
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Old Mar 11th, 2007, 05:40 AM
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Ah, you donate your XP to the crafter, who makes items through his dedicated wright? Yes, I see how that can be useful. In any case, I had to drop Item Familiar... so should I get a wright of my own?
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Old Mar 11th, 2007, 01:31 PM
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Correct except for the fact that you still own the Dedicated Wright. After getting XP from you, the crafter temporarily gets control of the wright while taking an hour to set up the crafting.

Some of this is houseruling, but perfectly reasonable houseruling at that.
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Old Mar 11th, 2007, 04:34 PM
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Given that Rash is making a goliath tank-like, I was thinking of swapping out my RB build for a less-optimized, but fun rogue build. I had a coupla questions about this though.

First, are dragonmarks still restricted by race?
Second, can LA be placed on one side of a gestalt build and monster HD on the other? I honestly don't know how this works. Alternatively, can I buy off +3LA (The max, I believe) on a +5la adjustment? I'm building this to start at ~level12 based on the progress of the game so far.
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12th level is correct. if a creature has a savge species class progression... or if you craft a raeasonable one, it may use 1/2 of the gestalt progression. LA buy off has no limit, but anything beyond la+3 will require epic progression to buy off completely. LA 5 isn't worth buying off... first level is 15, then 27, then 36, then 42, then 45. you'd be 45th level by the time LA+5 is bought off... which is why surrreal just ate the 5LA on one side of his gestalt build.

but if yer looking at a critter with la an hitdice, then figure out hwat the monster class progression is and use that on one side of your gestalt.


In regards to rogue, I let both of you in because the present team requested new members-- specifically warrior types-- so they wouldn't have to tank. I figured two would be better than one, and no sense choosing between the two of you since you were both happy to do the job. The team is looking for folks to take hits and control the field. so try to keep that in mind when propoosing a build.

with six of you, I'll likely be dishing out EL 18-20 challenges, with CR's in the 10-15 range. considering how few times a day PbP typically have encounters, yer gonna be likely dealing wiht lots of foes and some heavy hitters. I think the team can handle that pretty well. so plan accordingly.

I don't recall where in the wiki, but a rogue dragon mark appears on someone in khorvair roughly once a month. newborn or old guy.. it doesn/'t matter. someone wins the lottery on that. often it's just aberrant... but occationally valid marks appear on someone. it doesn't matter which race it is... that guy is gonna get HUNTED if word gets out he's a rogue dragonmarked.

Rumours exist that a secret "resistance" is building of rogue marked folks looking to break the economic tyranny of the established houses.. which if legitimate is likely a bunch of opportunists looking to take advantage of a lucky event.
rogue marks are either "adopted" into the current houses, or killed. It's so rare, no one really considers it an issue, or even legitimate. you'll be hard pressed to find someone who even knows someone that was a rogue heir who didn't happily join the approriate house.... I mean, instant prestige and wealth. it really is winning the lottery.

so have what you wan,t and do what you want with it. the worldc will react in kind.
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The reason I aks is because I just got a copy of the MM3 and I was thinking of putting together a Naztharune Multipouncer who is trying to establish himself as a crime lord in Sharn.

HD+LA is 16 on one side, so I'd throw out a progression for that, then the other side is Chameleon, if allowed, or dread pirate for flavour, combined with Shadowlord and (If I can take a human-house dragonmark) Blade of Orien 2. I'll still have a reasonably high HP total, but rather than standing still, I'll bounce around the field.

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There's a certain problem with multipouncers in this group, unfortunately. Both Vintereth and Tanner have Anticipate Teleportation effects running. We could probably still work something out to get around this, but by RAW multipouncing is nullified.

Oh, and you may want to name the rakshasa Ravana or Ahrivan. Participating in high school/college quizbowl has not taught me nothing.

Edit: Actually, there are some rings from Complete Mage that might allow this sort of bypassing to occur.
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Ouch. I missed the Anticipate Teleportation effects. There are ways around it - did you mean spellguard rings? - but first I'd need to work out a progression for the ECL - probably 30 min or so to come up with something reasonable.

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I don't have th write up on anticipatory teleport... can I get a run down, along with any other running spells that are not in srd? I'm still in the process of replacing books.
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Ooh, the Naztharune. With that, I'd actually be more tempted to drop the Chameleon aspect and go Swordsage.
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