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Old 10-14-2018, 01:50 PM
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... tc, etc. I think (and someone will probably correct me!) that Nietzsche was pointing out in that quote that people often act in a rational manner when viewed from the individual perspective-- but when large groups of individuals are doing this, it's a very foolish behavior for the group. Whereas Mackay is focusing on specific instances throughout history where large groups
Interesting,I hadn't thought about it that way. I haven't read much Nietszche actually. I thought Nietzsche was referring to how the herd or mob or whatever you want to call it kind of mentality, tends to govern individuals that feel part of a group, sometimes. With the corresponding increase in emotionality, irrationality, thoughtlessness, heedlessness etc...
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You might be right! Since I haven't read it and don't know the context, I might have his message totally wrong. I know that Nietzsche is often misunderstood because his words are taken out of context. But that's what I drew from the quote. Maybe one day I'll read the work that it came from ad find out!
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The little I know of Nietzsche I learned from Monty Python and A Fish Called Wanda. They'll have to update "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" with Bitcoin and (soon to be) Marijuana stocks.

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You might be right! Since I haven't read it and don't know the context, I might have his message totally wrong. I know that Nietzsche is often misunderstood because his words are taken out of context. But that's what I drew from the quote. Maybe one day I'll read the work that it came from ad find out!
I might also be wrong.

I haven't really read much Nietzche at all. My brother was really into his stuff for a while, several years ago, and I happened to read parts (most of?) his 'Thus spoke Zarathustra', it's rather short if I remember well.

That quote about insanity, I had just seen somewhere on the internet right before reading your post in this thread, (can't remember where exactly), and it struck me as interesting.

So I'm really not familiar with German philosophy but I read somewhere that many of the most famous German philosophers (including Nietzche? I might be wrong about this) were influenced by oriental philosophy, and that I have actually read more of.

I know Freud wrote quite a bit about human irrationality, and one of his nephews was a specialist in the irrational behavior of groups of people (and how to influence them). Part of their interest in group irrationality had to do with trying to understand the World Wars, in which Nietzche's philosophy played some kind of role, at least in theory. That's explained in a highly recommended documentary called Century of the Self.
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