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PATHFINDER:

As long as I use the info from the Core Rule Book (specifically here) to make something out of a special material, does that count as Core Rule Book, even if the item in question (such as a mithral chain shirt) is specifically named in a different source that I'm not using?

A mithral chain shirt is a very common item made from special material (even the Baggins' had one) and if you follow the rules for Mithral from the CRB you get the same item for the same price. As long as you follow what is laid out in the CRB + your additional resource + any relevant Paizo erratas, you should be fine.
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Old 06-10-2019, 03:23 PM
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Pathfinder:

The infamous "masterwork tool" entry in the CRB. Any judicial guidance here other than "use our best judgment and expect the Hand of Wodine to smite us, lo, unto the seventh generation, for stupidity therein"?

I am unaware of any infamous masterwork tool entries but that doesn't mean Wodine won't smite you.

EDIT: Also, are we our own ally, generally speaking? There are some effects for which that's explicitly excluded (bard Inspire Competence). In the 3.5 PHB (p 304) there was specific text to that end: "In most cases, references to 'allies' include yourself", but the PF CRB omits that text. The editors at d20pfsrd included a note that stated: "You count as your own ally unless otherwise stated or if doing so would make no sense or be impossible. Thus, 'your allies' almost always means the same as 'you and your allies'." But to the best of my knowledge, there's nothing official that defines "ally" as either including or excluding the character themselves.

The d20pfsrd note is quoted on Paizo's FAQ and is the closet thing there is to an official ruling, so we will abide by the FAQ as much as it should have made it into an Errata.

EDIT 2: Barring the cost limitations on single use items (and in general), are there restrictions on the caster level of consumable items (such as scrolls or potions)?

As long as it does not violate any of the other rules, then yes items may be purchased at a higher caster level. Be sure to denote this clearly for the judges.

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Old 06-10-2019, 07:30 PM
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Following up on a couple responses:

I'll note for sake of curiosity that the "mithral shirt" item and the result of applying the mithral special material to a chain shirt aren't exactly the same; the former weighs 10 lbs, the later 12.5. Regardless, the mithral shirt first appeared in the CRB, so either version should be fair game.

As for "masterwork tool", I'm referring to the entry on CRB 158, which reads in part: "This tool is perfect for its intended job. It grants a +2 circumstance bonus on a related skill check (if any). The bonuses provided by multiple masterwork items do not stack." It then goes on to explain that some items (e.g. climber's kit) are effectively already the masterwork tool for their skill, and some skills may only have such tools for a subset of uses, and so forth. I deemed this entry "infamous", mostly because of it's history with Pathfinder Society Organized Play (they largely gave up and deemed pretty much everything acceptable, in what always struck me as a woeful departure from their otherwise ironclad policy of "RAW, no matter the cost!"). Basically... are sane uses of masterwork tools, especially for low-impact skills, likely to be considered copacetic?

Just remember that each skill should have its own tool. A masterwork jewelers' loupe isn't likely to help you swim.

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For PF shapeshifters, how are the animals/monsters/undead that are available determined?

Edit: to clarify, any PC that changes it’s shape not any specific class.

In the interest of remaining true to the core rule book, we will be limiting shape shifting to things found within the Bestiary 1. Additionally as when shapeshifting or polymorphing (for example) you become an average creature with which you need to be familiar with. While you can theoretically tweak the appearance within reason, (say being a scarlet macaw instead of a hyacinth macaw) we will be disallowing templates. It wouldn’t make sense to be able to somehow concoct a macaw with an 18 strength value, while changing the color is seemingly innocuous.
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5th edition:
  • Can you cast a spell that needs somatic gestures while having a weapon held in your hand?
Sorry if this seems like a stupid question.

Somatic and material components require at least one free hand. A hand is not free if it's holding a weapon or shield (or pretty much anything aside from an arcane focus). The War Caster feat can get around this issue.

Edit: Thanks. That's what I thought but wasn't positive.
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I read somewhere in a previous Outplay that there is no short rests. What are the rules regarding rests in 2019?

Rests are likely to remain in short supply.

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For PF, other than the book limits, are there limits on summoning spells. Like I know you can’t ritual summon an eidolon for that unlimited duration pet, but what about the summon monster ability and conjuration (summoning) spells?

Eidolon's are not allowed in Outplay, this includes via summoning spells.
You may not start play with any pets or npc's outside of a companion or a familiar.
Summon Monster spells are limited to Beastiary 1
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:13 AM
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If I wanted to start the game with an item hidden somewhere on my character, can I roll Slight of Hand now to hide it? Or do you wish that to happen only in-game when everything starts?

All rolls (aside from HP) that are relevant to the game should be made in-game.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:18 AM
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Pathfinder Errata 1.2 Rules that are highlighted as "Optional" or "Variant" rules are not allowed in Outplay.

Hero Points, including Hero Points granted by feats or other methods, are not allowed.

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Pathfinder: (but probably 5E too, honestly)

Obviously they are literally consumables, but do nonmagical foods with no mechanical effects count against the 8 consumables limit? If so, do they do so per-item or can we have a reasonable amount of comestibles at the cost of 1 (or, preferably zero) "slot" of consumables?

After all, I don't really expect that characters will stop to eat amidst the actual competition, but we're supposed to also be serious about the roleplaying aspect here. The gates are a two day journey out from civilization, in mostly remote areas. Knowing that we won't need food seems metagamey.

Consumables are consumables. If they are magical they count towards the limit.

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Does the limit on "one-use items" include consumables with multiple charges, such as Necklace of Fireballs or Gem of Brightness?

As wands are not considered one use items, neither shall multi use wondrous items.

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Is it two traits with a drawback? Traits and Drawbacks are not included in Outplay.
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