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Old Dec 13th, 2021, 06:08 PM
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Pathfinder, Witch's Hex:

srdA witch can soothe the wounds of those she touches.

Effect: This acts as a cure light wounds spell, using the witch’s caster level. Once a creature has benefited from the healing hex, it cannot benefit from it again for 24 hours. At 5th level, this hex acts like cure moderate wounds.


Since this hex acts like the cure light wounds spell, a witch can use it to touch attack and harm undead, correct?
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srd for CLWSince undead are powered by negative energy, this spell deals damage to them instead of curing their wounds. An undead creature can apply Spell Resistance, and can attempt a Will save to take half damage.


My question:
Can a witch use this hex over and over again on an undead? Ie, can they continue to make touch attacks and deliver a healing hex multiple times to the same undead?


My rules lawyer statement:

The hex states that a creature than benefits from the hex cannot receive it again.
Undead don't benefit from it, therefore... the hex can be cast again and again, like all other hexes that do not contain a set limit.
I'm going with no. First, because it is a pretty picayune reading of the hex, the same as if a GM ruled you couldn't use it to harm undead because you aren't using it to soothe them.

More importantly, however, is that it would cause the Healing hex to work in a completely different manner than every similar hex the witch has, which is generally a good indication something is amiss.

Ultimately though, it's up to the GM for their game.
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Old Dec 13th, 2021, 06:12 PM
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I would argue the undead "benefits" negatively from it, the way you can "gain" -1 levels...

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Rules lawyer:

The wording on "sooth" is flavor text/fluff text, and is never considered part of the actual rules of the game.

As for the argument that "it would cause the Healing hex to work in a completely different manner than every similar hex the witch has..." I feel you have a decent point in response there. And, I think that's how the designers thought about it, and intended it to be. RAI, even if they didn't write it out specifically.

there are several hexes that do not have 1/day limits, there are several that do... as well as hexes that are completely dissimilar to most others in how they work. But yes, many do have a 1/day limit.

@birched: at negatively benefit. You could be an HR manager with that kind of thinking.
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I lean toward 1/day for all aspects.
If it worked differently, it would have been spelled out. In this case I would say "benefits" = "affects". I think flavor-ish text just slipped in there.

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I would argue the undead "benefits" negatively from it, the way you can "gain" -1 levels...

+1 points to Brian for using the word "picayune"!
Negatively?
It benefits they by returning them away from evil.

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Negatively?
It benefits them by returning them away from evil.

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