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It might not be what you wanted to heard but still... this is an exploit... it wasn't meant to be, but I suppose with all those materials that often contradict each other, you found something. It shouldn't be allowed to my opinion. So if you find a DM that will allow it, simply just ask him the question.
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There is no contradiction in materials & it isn't exactly a loophole either, it is completely legit, now my question is how it would work with that domain power
& I say this as a regular DM, if any DM didn't allow this combination to grant the ability to turn AND rebuke, they are going against the rules & being a few words I won't use on here. Now as far as how the domain power is handled, that is a pure judgement call.
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I'm starting to think you might not be able to get the discussion you are looking for, without making your method public.
People are more up to theorizing when everything's on the table. You've explained it to me, but in a secret, so I won't be the one to publicize it.
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So if you mean to ask if by using one use of your power do you simultaneously Rebuke and Turn? No, I don't think so. By the ...or the period.commas in the text I would say you have to choose good or evil at the time of use.
Definitely sure the pool is 3+ (mod) total as opposed to one for each.
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Khalil, I stated in the original post, I have BOTH turn AND rebuke. I will be adding into it that each has their own 3+ Charisma modifier use pools. It is legitimate. Now can we please revert to the original question?
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The question seems to have become lost.
You have stated that you have both turn and rebuke. You have stated that both turn and rebuke have their own 3+ charisma mod pools of uses. Your original question was posed like so: Quote:
As for the other questions, you answered that by stating that both abilities get their own 3+ charisma mod pools of uses. So, if there is another question, would you mind clarifying?
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I'll use Fire Domain for an example
The domain power states that I get turn water elementals OR rebuke fire elementals, depending on whether I turn OR rebuke. but I turn AND rebuke. How does this apply to someone with both?
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I have a separate pool of 3+ turn attempts & 3+ rebuke attempts. The domain wording is based on which I previously had. If I had turn attempts, I then turn the appropriate elementals. If I had rebuke attempts, I then rebuke the appropriate elementals. & by the reading the turn/rebuke elementals is a separate pool of uses from turn/rebuke undead.
So my question is, since the domain states I turn or rebuke elementals depending upon what I had prior, since I could turn AND rebuke, each with their own pool of uses, how does the elemental domain apply?
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This falls into another discussion that we would have to keep private. Due to your wish to keep the method of your madness from corrupting others.
Without giving it away, I will say that just because you can turn and rebuke undead, does not mean that elemental domain would give you the same benefit. I believe that you would still have to take whichever route your cleric would normally take. So if your cleric could only turn (before taking your custom rules into play) then the elemental domain will only allow him to turn elemental creatures. I say this because it seems that your custom rules only affect your abilities against undead creatures.
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Jeri, I can't argue against your claim, & since what you're saying is in the text of the domain power, it makes sense. Quick reading to get thrown off followed by attempts to figure it out when already thrown off kinda still leaves thrown off, lol. Thanks
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Glad to have been some help, at least.
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As for whether or not you can do both (because people love to argue) if your DM lets you do it, then you can do it.
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We pretty much came to the conclusion that, because of his exploit, his character can Turn 3+Chamod, Rebuke 3+chamod, and Turn elemental 3xchamod each per long rest.
I will say that his exploit technically isn't an exploit. It is legit. I wish I could explain further, but he only shared the method with me after it was obvious that I really REALLY wanted to understand and be able to help.
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sounds pretty cool. I have a buddy who played clerics a fair bit, so I'll see if I can pump it out of him. If you guys found a solution, and all of your questions are answered Dread, maybe you should close the thread so you don't get lots of notifications from lazy people who don't read the whole thread.... Like me lol
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That's an admin only feature, I can't close it
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