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World of Darkness character sheets
If you're wanting to see such sheets here, please jump in with commentary, but please answer the following questions first: 1. Are you currently, or have you previously been, in a WoD game on site? 2. Would having at least a baseline sheet for WoD available make you more interested in running or playing a game on site? 3. What would you consider to be the bare minimum in terms of character aspects a sheet would have to display? |
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To answer my own questions:
1. I've previously been in a long running V:tM involved game on site. 2. Yes, as I think it would make things easier in terms of character access. 3. Mind you I'm more of an "Old World" than a "New World" player, but I think we'd need the basic attributes (Strength, Charisma, etc.) and Willpower dots listed. Abilities too, but I understand those may change within the subsytems. |
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1. Are you currently, or have you previously been, in a WoD game on site?
Yes, I'm running 2, planning 1, and planning on joining another. 2. Would having at least a baseline sheet for WoD available make you more interested in running or playing a game on site? Yes 3. What would you consider to be the bare minimum in terms of character aspects a sheet would have to display? Attributes, Skills, Health/Willpower/, Concept and all that mess at the top (or room for it), a Supernatural Template.
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I believe there was a "Mortal" bare-basic sheet presented back some time ago (early 2000's) by MrGone (The be-all-end-all of WoD sheet generation). I don't think he (or anyone else) currently supports that sheet, but he still have TONS of high caliber and "official" looking characters sheets on his website (Found here). Most seem to be off-shoots of the Mortal sheet (as they should be), but I have no idea how available the sheets open source would be. |
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Things are a bit mess now that there is cWoD, nWoD & nWoD 2e. But in the latter the changes are minimal and could probably be condensed into one sheet with some menu options. |
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Mages will probably need a notes section to keep track of all their Rotes.
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The supes all have a power stat (some have 2) that function on a fluctuating scale. This gets a little tricky, as some of them are a single line of dots and others function like willpower in that they have two ratings, permanent and temporary. Fillable boxes, maybe? A space for the stat name and a permanent & temporary box kind of like HP and Current HP on the Pathfinder sheets? If we're looking at function over form, that would probably be easiest and would allow one sheet to be modified for all the games.
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Thanks to everyone that's posted so far. And now a question for all of you that have played or at least checked out multiple OWoD systems.
If it is true that the systems all have the same base 9 Attributes (Strength, Dexterity, Stamina, etc.), would you want to see them all listed in the traditional order? Example: Appearance and Charisma would both be listed under Social Attributes. |
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As per TH's announcement, OWoD sheets are available via the character profiler.
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So I set to work on a Hunter: the Reckoning character sheet to see how well it might fit into the current template. Solid work all around and it is pretty easy to slot things into places where they mostly make sense. I could definitely use this, and may well do so after the New Year, to run Hunter so I think most games can make the template work with some finessing.
For the willpower section, it might be nice to have the cursor default to the center of the line so we can type in our permanent rating there and use the dots for tracking temporary. I feel like the middle of the line might be more obvious than the left side justification it currently has. Could be more aesthetically pleasing for that to be true of the Humanity/Path section above it, but that might just be me. A line at the top for clan/tribe/creed or other game-specific identifying group characteristic might be a nice add. I believe the common parlance of the day was 'splat'. I wouldn't mind seeing the sires/progenitor/etc line replaced with such a thing. For space consideration it could just be identified as clan/tribe/tradition to hit the Big 3 and other games could just default to using that line. A nit-picky thing I came across is abilities, which is set to the default 10 spots in each section per V:tM. Hunter defaults to 12 core abilities and, like many games, has additional abilities in supplements. While one could simply not write in abilities they never intend to take, it would be nice to have 12 spots available in each to fit in the default skill set from the corebook. Other games with fewer abilities might benefit from being able to add a few supplement-based skills in those additional slots, too. I'm psyched that this exists on the site now. I really hope it helps rally more WoD.
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I am late to the party, but my characters wound up taking a forum in post template I created and ran with it. So if anyone would prefer a more compact or in thread sheet you are welcome to Look to my signature.borrow it from my game.
PS: oWoD is the only choice. nWod is heresy.
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Thanks for sharing that Legioned, but please keep in mind that as WoD sheets are now part of the character profiler, we're looking for feedback in regards to using the site sheets for character creation.
Is there anything on the new sites you like or dislike? |
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I just want to say:
From the coding side, TH made this happen. That's a *major* stumbling block for new sheets on the site. Thank him. Send him pizza. And flowers. Thank zev, too, for pushing for this. He was key in making this happen. If I missed any major contributors, please yell at me via pm.
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I agree, thank you for doing that. And forgive my detracting from the thread intent.
As for being critical...I am hesitant to do that since someone worked so hard. However, if I were to say anything:
It is missing the health chart, a place for equipment, and an experience/freebie point spend tracker. I'm not sure I would even add those. It seems like this sheet is half way in between the 1 page summary, and this version - the 4 page elder sheet. All of those aside, I do really like it. I may transfer my characters to it at some point - aside from the fact that I don't know how to track if they made changes to the sheet.
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