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Old 08-16-2019, 11:58 AM
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Spell effect ruling

Question: If the Suggestion spell is cast at a group of Stirges - that by description hunt by scent and heat - "suggesting" that the undead nearby (that are attacking the party as well), are more "tasty", would this even work?

The scent wouldn't be living, neither would the lack of body heat be inviting to a blood sucker. I'd rule "no", but want to be correct in my judgement.
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(assuming that this is a 5e question...)

I'd think that the bigger problem is that the spell requires that the creature can understand you. With an INT of 2 and no listed languages, I think that's a pretty clear sign Stirges can't understand.

There's clearly a lot of GM discretion in Suggestion, since the word "reasonable" is part of the description, and our country has a whole judicial apparatus to interpret a word like that. The spell seems to lean on the idea that "not harmful to itself" is critical to being reasonable. The suggestion you've given is not immedately harmful If the creature was intelligent and hunted by smell, I might let the spell have an effect for a round or two. Once they try to draw blood and realize that undead things generally have none of that (or they start getting thumped by skellingtons), I'd think all hint of "reasonableness" disappears.
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It's in my 2E Campaign, but what you've said still applies. I did think of letting it go for one round. As it is a "singing sword" one could argue/reason/interpret that the "singing" is the convincing part instead of spoken word.
I'll roll with let it go one round, or until the stirges get a proboscis full of yucky undead gunk.

That's so much for the weigh-in. I appreciate it!
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