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[DaveTheMagicWease]

Originally Posted by Embrodak

I'm not the best Min/Maxer in the world, but perhaps I can spice him up a notch. I was thinking the Dragon Mark Heir for role play.. I know it is incredibly weak... With all the extra feats I get normally I may just add them that way.

How do you fancy having your character hailing from Cyre? RP-wise it would work quite well imo since the campaign is heading for the Mournland.

Amd mechanically speaking, I've just been thinking and it occurs to me that the Cyran Avenger PrC (from Five Nations) could make a Ranger/Warlock combination work very well. With a high Charisma and using Legacy Champion (from Weapons of Legacy) to advance it the ranged Avenging Strike ability can make your eldritch blasts very powerful.

Also, it grants you the Heroic Spirit feat, which combined with the extra Action Points from Dragonmark Heir gives you lots of action points. If you pick up the Action Surge feat that'll let you fire off an extra eldritch blast each round (and Quicken SLA can bring you up to 3 blasts/round).

If it was me I'd enter Dragonmark Heir at 5th level rather than where you've got it (imo Ranger doesn't offer you much that's useful for a Warlock so I'd look to leave it pretty early). Might also be worth looking in the Dragonmarked book at some of the PrCs - e.g. Duraak'ash has some nice Ranger abilities (superb tracker/scout) and has a very strong base (full BAB, good Fort and Ref, 6+Int skill points per level) - which is very useful for gestalt, then pair it up with good will save casting progression classes on the otehr side (i.e. the aforementioned Legacy Champion).

Originally Posted by Embrodak

Uhmm.. It may be a bit before I can continue working on my PC.

I tore something in my shoulder last night and can barely sit at a computer for long.

If you wanna just give us a bit more of an idea what you want to do with it we can work on it for you while it heals...?

[Amy]

A) I'd like to pay for an adamantine great club, but call it petrified stone. I hope that is alright.

B) I paid for a +6 belt of strength and two gloves of storing and a +3 ring of protection. Can I combine these into brass bracers if I cross off the belt and ring and gloves from usable magic item locations? I just want him to be 'cool' instead of looking like he's walking around with textbook magic items...

C) I assume I can make up the entities or organizations for factions... Unless there is a list you would like me to draw from, in whole or in part.

Originally Posted by Fil kearney

A yes
B I just thought of that as well maybe a few days a go. elegant solution I approve!
C make up whatever you want. I encourage such initiative and innovation. thank you!

[Amy]

SRD says about the Half-Dragon Template:

Originally Posted by SRD

Armor Class: Natural armor improves by +4

This means that it actually stacks with one other natural Armor, right?

[Embrodak]

OK,

I was thinking a Thurani Assassin/Spy. Urban Ranger.

I was thinking warlock and taking invocations for stealth. Devil Sight.. Flying... Using Dragon Mark to make everything dark (getting 50% cover) and being able to see in the dark.

Perhaps a mix of Rogue, Ranger, Warlock.. Get sneak attack damage when in the dark.

My above mix was just to see about multi-classing Prc's classes it matter "what side" one took.

Are we being strict on XP penalties for Multi-classing?

[Fil kearney]

NO. alignment and preferred classes don't exist... xp penalties do not exist. an assassin is not intrinsically evil.. a good hunter is an assassin. One hot one kill. that is respected.

so mix up and dip as much as you want. it will help your power curve.

[Fil kearney]

Originally Posted by AxeMan

SRD says about the Half-Dragon Template:

This means that it actually stacks with one other natural Armor, right?

You are correct. and you thought you were outclassed?

[Amy]

Ahhh... Deer Hunter reference. If not... Deer Hunter reference!

[Amy]

This is what I put in the gauntlets:

Right Side Glove of Storing (10,000 gp) (Spear - right) +2 Ring of Protection (8,000 gp) Immovable Rod (5,000 GP) Belt of Giant Strength +3 (18,000 gp) Handy HaverSpace (1,000 gp) * 100 Marble Token, 50 pound Rock (50 gp each - 5000 gp)

Left Side Glove of Storing (10,000 gp) (Club - left) Ring of Force Shield +2 AC (8,500 gp) Immovable Rod (5,000 GP) Belt of Giant Strength +3 (18,000 gp) Handy HaverSpace (1,000 gp) * 100 Alchemical Silver sling bullets (200 gp) (-1 to damage)

[Fil kearney]

okay... what axe is doing is in response to a PM.. which was, "can I use the slots o magic items, but not be covered in magic gear"... to which of course I said yes.

SO I am assuming these gauntles will take the hand, ring, and belt slots of magic gear?
no problem ther eand no mark up in cost. although they are only gauntlets, he is effetively burning three item slots to do so.

Haverspaces: those are non slot items, no problem.
immovability..., I can imagine all sorts of fun to have with this idea... as long as you use the standard action to activate and deactivate them as written, I got no problem with them combined at normal cost either.
Giant strength... +3 in each? I am confused... those bonuses don't stack. if you were planning on taking giant strength +6 as an item, then just deem the gauntels together take the belt slot and don't divide the bonus.
I can see why you would divide the haversack space (is that what yo did? ) because of location, but the belt doensn't quite apply the same.

the rng ac and defense bonuses also make sense... no extra cost as long as they are taking the ring slots.

I also tdon't think much of the whole "accessory hero": concept, but gear is needed. Thi is an elegant solution, and makes em pretty damn cool gloves. You can expect me to be using the same concept on gear oin the future myself.

just clarify the giat strength bit for me and everything is fine.

[Fil kearney]

Originally Posted by Ascendant

Sorry for my lack of posting recently.

Here is what I've got for Xiv so far. Not by any means complete, but a good idea of the general direction in which he's headed.

I'll most likely be without internet access for the next couple of days, so I'll address any concerns when I get back. Thanks.

Xiv is looking good so far.
I would suggest that you:
1. permanize schism... it's far too useful for you to stay competitive.. espcieally sice it is only allowying you 3rd level powers for now. ut it'll grow stronger in time.
2. I would recommend swapping out your level 6 feat speed of thouht for the first legacy item feat, and make your mindblade the legacy. Thi will allow you to juice up your abilities considerably.

I am not requiring this at all, of course, but those are two things just off the top of my head that would really make sure you stand out in the group.
Of course, once we go epic, you can start thinking about cool thins like, usig your mindblade as a blade barrier, pumping up th eability score damage you are dealing with knife to the soul, etc... This guy can get REAL nasty in time.

I dig em. start talking him up some more!

[Amy]

Originally Posted by Fil kearney

I can see why you would divide the haversack space (is that what yo did? ) because of location, but the belt doesn't quite apply the same.

Yuppers. I just want them to be able to hold baseball-sized stuff, including potions, sling bullets, marble tokens, the like. The contents would be called on just like a Haversack, then pop out of the wrist of the bracer and into his palm. Handy, indeed for sling bullets and thrown objects...

Originally Posted by Fil kearney

just clarify the giat strength bit for me and everything is fine.

I just split the cost. 36,000 gp goes 50/50 both ways. No big deal, except that if someone were to somehow tear one of his arms from its socket he would no longer get the strength benefit at all.

No more ring slots.
No more glove slots.
No move belt slot.
I think it is realistic that he could not use rods while equipped with these bracers.
And he won't be dipping his hands into a bag of holding any time soon, either.

[Fil kearney]

I don't think there will be a problem using other rods with those gauntlets.... the factd that immovable rods are called rods doesn't make them Rods.

If it were'r for the fact that Rock has wings, those rods would be a cool way to "fly around" by swinging on them like some God of War. but alas, they still make a great way to keep you from falling from the sky

[Amy]

Upon reflection, which I have done a lot of on this character, I would be willing to trade the fly ability in on something else, if you have an idea or would entertain one... He gets flight from Angel and Half Dragon, so it is something that should trade in pretty well...

Regeneration?

[Fil kearney]

wings don't seem to fit the character, but Regeneration is traditionally more valuable than natural fight. I would trade them for DR or somesuch.

do you just not want wings?

[Amy]

I like the idea of him being a neutered angel in some way, cast out to prove himself...

Also, that wings seem dainty compared to him. He is very earth-bound, constantly fighting against the draw of the earth's inner core...

And, flight covers distance so easily. There should be something about him that is lumbering-ish.


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