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[Fil kearney]

Originally Posted by Zoycitenega

Ok, question. It says
Does that mean that you don't have to waste a standard action for the point recovery?

thats right, but you wont have your top level maneuvers available the first round unless you meditate beforehand.

[Zoycitenega]

Final query: Would a Crusader/Rogue work?

[Fil kearney]

yes

[Kael Vonrik]

Well if you want me i am leaning toward a Raptoran Cleric5/Dread Necromancer5 becoming a Dread Necromancer/Skypledge at level 7 I will create a full character if you are interested ^_^ looks really fun to play

[Dirtfox]

Here's the breakdown I'm looking at so far. I'll stop at 10, in case I need to adjust, and keep it one step ahead

STR 17->+4 racial +1 level 4 -> 22
CON 13 -> +2 racial -> 15
DEX 15 -> -2 racial -> 13
INT 17
CHA 8
WIS 8

1 - Crusader 1//Goliath -  Furious Counterstrike, Steely Resolve 5 Feat: Endurance
2 - Crusader 2//Wizard 1 Indomitable Soul, Scribe Scroll, Enhance Attribute
3 - Crusader 3//Wizard 2 Zealous Surge Feat: Dodge
4 - Crusader 4//Wizard 3 Steely Resolve 10
5 - Crusader 5//Wizard 4

Base: BAB +5 Fort +4 Ref +1 Will +4  Modified: BAB: +10 Fort +6 Ref +2 Will +3
Maneuver Pool: 6 (recovery 3)  7 Maneuvers known 2 Stances known
Spell Pool: 12 (recovery 8) Spells Prepared: 4-L0 4-L1 3-L2

Then we'll be bringing in the Swiftblade (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20070327) Prestige Class :) And the next ability score increase will be Con +1

6 - Crusader 6//Wizard 5  Smite 1/day Feat: Mobility, Bonus Feat: Smiting Spell
7 - Crusader 7//Swiftblade 1 Spring Attack, Swift Surge +1/+0ft
8 - Crusader 8//Swiftblade 2 Steely Resolve 15, Blurred Alacrity
9 - Crusader 9//Swiftblade 3 Sudden Casting Feat: Steadfast Determination
10 - Crusader 10//Swiftblade 4 Arcane Reflexes, Swift surge +1/+10 ft, Die Hard

Base: BAB +10/+5 Fort +7 Ref +7 Will +8 
Modified: BAB: +16/+11 Fort +10 Ref +8 Will +11
Maneuver Pool 13 (recovery 6) Maneuvers known 9 Stances known 3
Spell Pool 21 (refresh 14) Spells Known 4 Lv0, 5 Lv1, 4 Lv2, 3 Lv3, 1 Lv 4

Enhance Attribute (Ex) (From the SRD Wizard variants)

Once per day, plus one additional time per five class levels, a transmuter using this variant can add a +2 enhancement bonus to any one of his ability scores. This bonus lasts for a number of minutes equal to the transmuter's class level. Using this ability is a swift action.

A transmuter using this variant permanently gives up the ability to obtain a familiar. 

Racial Traits: Goliath from Races of Stone
Powerful Build - treated as one size category larger for opposed checks (ie: grapple, bull rush, trip), weapon sizes, and special abilities like 'swallow whole'
Mountain Movement - Make standing jumps as if they were running jumps, no penalty on accelerated climbing
Acclimated - do not take penalties for high altitudes
+2 on Sense Motive checks

So at 5th level, here's a starting package of maneuvers known, spells prepared, and some basic gear.

To Hit: +11 Damage 2d6+7 AC 16
+1 Large Greatsword (3d6+1 damage, 19-20x2 Slashing)
Mithral Breastplate (+5 armor, +5 max dex, -1 Armor Check Penalty, 15% spell failure, 30ft, considered Light)
Spells Prepared: 
0 - Light, Prestidigitation, Mage Hand, Acid Splash
1 - Shield, Nerveskitter, Enlarge Person, Magic Missile
2 - Bull's Strength, Heroics, Wraithstrike
Stances Known:
Martial Spirit (+2 HP per melee hit)
Thicket of Blades (Any movement, including withdraw and 5' step, in threatened area provokes AoO)
Maneuvers Known:
1 - Crusader's Strike, Charging Minotaur, Stone Bones, Douse the Flames
2 - Mountain Hammer, Tactical Strike
3 - Bonecrusher (+4d6 damage, DC 19 Fort save or have +10 to crit confirmation rolls)

[HenryLockwood]

Right, here we go.

Swordsage 1 Swashbuckler 1    1   d10  Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus,
                                       Quick to Act +1, Adaptive Style
Swordsage 2 Swashbuckler 2    2   d10  Grace +1, AC Bonus
Swordsage 3 Rogue 1           3   d8   Sneak Attack +1d6, Trapfinding
Swordsage 4 Swashbuckler 3    4   d10  Insightful Strike, Insightful Strike
Swordsage 5 Rogue 2           5   d8   Evasion, Quick to Act +2

Feats:
L1:       Extra Readied Manoeuver  (?)
L1 Human: EWP: Spiked Chain
L3:       Shadow Blade

Question: what effect, if any, does the feat "Extra Readied Manoeuver" (ToB 30) have? I would recommend that it gives an increase to your pool sufficient to use one additional manoeuver of the highest level available. If it does, I'll take that; if not I'll consider Combat Reflexes.

Manouevers known:
L1: Shadow Blade Technique (SH)
    Clinging Shadow Strike (SH)
    Wind Stride (DW)
    Sapphire Nightmare Blade (DM)
    Counter Charge (SS)
    Mighty Throw (SS)
L2: Cloak of Deception (SH)
    Drain Vitality (SH)
    Emerald Razor (DM)
L3: Strength Draining Strike (SH)

Stances:
L1: Child of Shadow (SH) - concealment while moving 10' or more
    Flame's Blessing (DW) - fire resistance 5
L3: Assassin's Stance (SH) - +2d6 sneak attack damage

Ability scores:
STR 10
DEX 18
CON 10
INT 16
WIS 17
CHA 8

Saves: Base +4/+7/+4 (F/R/W)
Modifiers +0/+5/+3 (additional +1 from Grace)

BAB +5. +4 (DEX) from weapon finesse. +1 from weapon focus. +1 from weapon = +11 (spiked chain).
AC 10 +4 (DEX) + 3 (INT) +2 (Tumble) + 6 (armour). = 25
Damage: 2d4 (spiked chain) + 3 (INT, swashbuckler) + 4 (DEX, when in Shadow Hand stance) + 3 (WIS, when using Shadow Hand strike) + 1 (weapon) + 1d6 sneak attack.
total: 2d4+11

Initiative: +6 (+4 DEX, +2 Quick to Act)

Gear:
Spiked Chain +1 
Att: +12
Dam: 2d4+11+3d6 (when sneak attacking using a Shadow Hand strike in Assassin's Stance)

Mithral Breastplate+1
AC: +6
Max Dex: +5
Check penalty: -1

Potions: 2x Owl's Wisdom
             2x Fox's Cunning
             4x Cure Light Wounds
             4x Shield of Faith +2

Still to do: skill points. Total available: 10x4 (L1), 10 (L2), 12 (L3), 10 (L4), 12 (L3). Total 84.

[Zoycitenega]

Javert's Build:
1 Crusader || Rogue		Combat Expertise, Two-Weapon Fighting
2 Crusader || Rogue
3 Crusader || Rogue		Weapon Finesse
4 Crusader || Rogue		+1 dex
5 Crusader || Rogue		Fort 4, Ref 4, Will 1, SP 96.
6 Crusader || Thief Acrobat		Improved Feint
7 Crusader || Thief Acrobat
8 Crusader || Thief Acrobat		+1 dex
9 Crusader || Thief Acrobat		Decietful
10 Crusader || Thief Acrobat		Fort 7, Ref 8, Will 3, SP +50(146).
11 Crusader || Mountebank
12 Crusader || Mountebank		Weapon Focus; +1 int
13 Crusader || Mountebank
14 Crusader || Mountebank
15  Crusader || Mountebank		Improved Toughness; Fort 9, Ref 12, Will 5, SP +40(186).
16  Crusader || Mountebank		+1 int
17  Crusader || Mountebank
18  Crusader || Mountebank		Iron Will; Fort 12, Ref 15, Will 6, SP +40(226).
19  Crusader || Mountebank
20  Crusader || Mountebank		+1 str

Abilities:
Level 5: Trap Finding, Sneak Attack +3d6, Evasion, Trap Sense +1, Uncanny Dodge, Furious Counterstrike, steely resolve 10, Indomitable soul, zealous surge, Maneuvers Known 7, Stances Known 2,
Level 10: Fast Acrobatics, kip up, steady stance, Agile Fighting +2/+3, Slow fall 30 ft, Acrobatic Charge, Defensive Roll 2/day, Skill Mastery, Improved Evasion, Smite 1/day, Steely Resolve 15, Die Hard, Maneuvers Known 9, Stances Known 3,
Level 15: Tongue of the Devil, Sneak Attack +5d6, Alter Ego, Slide Slip 1/day, Steely Resolve 20, Mettle, Maneuvers Known 12, Stances Known 4,
Level 20: Alter Ego x2, Sneak Attack +6d6, Slideslip 4/day, Slippery Mind, Sudden Escape, Steely Resolve 30, Smite 2/day,

Str: 10
Dex: 16
Con: 10
Int: 16
Wis: 12
Cha 14

Level 5: 9k - +1 mithral chain shirt(2,250), 2 +1 punching daggers(4,604), Cloak of Resistance +1(1,000), 4 potions cure Light wounds(200).
Level 10: 49k - +4 mithral chain shirt(17,250), 2 +1 punching daggers(1 frost, 1 flaming)(16,604), Cloak of Resistance +3(9,000), Headband of Persuasion(4,500), 4 potions cure light wounds & 1 cure serious wounds, 1 potion of invisibility(CL 6).
Level 15: 200k - +5 mithral chain shirt(26,250), Cloak of Resistance +5(25,000), Headband of Persuasion(4,500), Amulet of Wordtwisting(6,000), Gloves of Dexterity+6(36,000), 2 +1 daggers(frost and flaming bursts) with 2 lesser energy crystals(acidic)(48), healing belt(.75), Ring of Protection +4(32,000), Ring of Force Shield, Decanter of Endless Water(9,000), Bag of Holding I(2,000). 2k left

I'll post manuvers and personality/background tonight after work.

Books:
Complete Adventurer(Thief-acrobat)
Complete Scoundrel(Mountebank)
Magic Item Compendium(items)

[Fil kearney]

as for extra readied maneuver: no, we will not be modifying points available per level
it woud either be irrelevant or give you an extra maneuver that is level appropriate at the level gained.

your choice. extra maneuver is a feat that exists already?nif so its irrelevant.

[HenryLockwood]

It exists already. I'll have a look for what to take instead. (Tome of Battle, p30)

[Fil kearney]

zoy
henry
dirtfox

good work! we need one or two moe

[Dirtfox]

Hey Zoy - you might look into swapping out Crusader for Swordsage or Warblade. They allow access to schools that would give you maneuvers that mesh really well with rogue-types. I think that could really crazy it up even more for you. Crusader is, in general, healing/tanking/helping allies manuevers. Some of the other schools, tiger especially, are just crazy damage and there's even sneaky bits and movement enhancements as well.

[Fil kearney]

you three figger out the details of whatever you want, and this is when you want to talk about any story themes you may want as well.
I'll have plenty of fighting obviously, but if you want to be a psart of the general story creation fine.

themes, foes, places in eberron, etc. im open otherwise i'll just put it together for you.

[HenryLockwood]

How about a retrieval mission in the Mournlands? Someone/something went missing, and we're trying to find out what happened.

[Dirtfox]

Ooh, Mournlands. Always a good start. A couple more motivations to throw into the mix... Those gnomes in house Zivis (sp?) are *very* particular about their records, so they might have the exact route a missing shipment would take... Or if something was smuggled in with the incorrect papers, we could be tracking back a smuggler's ring using the mournlands to try and shortcut patrols and tarrifs. Or there's always the highly suspect Morgrave University going after a Thing. Or - too bad there's no //Artificer so far - House Cannith could be going after lost patterns and forges in the Mournland.

And the Wayfinder's guild! Just going places and exploring. Or a forward group to mark and 'clear' a new overland road that dips through part of the Mournlands.

[Fil kearney]

I'm open to that. care to representa particular nation or guild? both / neither?