[OOC] The Rusty Dragon Inn

[TheMystic]

All I can say is thank heavens Taika didn't get that roll. Nevin would have ended up being a helper monkey

[DukeofTuring]

Originally Posted by Fon

@DukeofTuring
Estella is based on Rarity from My Little Pony; that show generates the most extreme reactions so I was reluctant to say it.

"Ugly Betty" was my best guess for Estella's origins, which probably shows how much of a guess that was.

Elenion's character sheet is in what I expect will be its final form. Two quick notes:

*Even with fairly minimal gear for adventuring, the weight of equipment and the carrying capacity of 12 STR mean that carrying all of his items will make Elenion burdened by a medium load, at least until we can afford some sort of easier method of storing equipment with less regard for bulk and weight. Obviously, this won't be a problem outside of combat, but it will lower his effective DEX bonus and inflict an armor check penalty of -3 if he does get attacked while carrying all of his gear, a serious problem for a rogue. If we can plan ahead a bit, does anyone think that they could take on about 19.5 lbs of extra gear without being adversely effected?

*My character sheet is looking fairly good to me on the whole, but I've had a bit of trouble getting it to properly accept the bonus from "Dodge" to AC. Everything is fine right now, after some manual edits, but if any factors relevant to AC are changed everything will automatically shift back to their inaccurate values. Unless anyone knows of a better solution, I'll just keep things as they are and make a point of keeping a close eye on Elenion's AC.

[OllieNorth]

I've always thought of it as good roleplay. You wouldn't fight with everything you own on your back unless you are in the army. You would drop your pack, fight, then go pick it up.

[UncaJJ]

All right, so I was wondering if the point buy was a good deal, and except for Fon, it surely is.... (Based on YAPCG point build calculations)

Effective Point Build based on rolls
Disciple: 24 point build
jardeh: 24 point build
Fon: 35 POINT BUILD (4 is not valid for point build, boosted that up to min 8)
OllieNorth: -4 point build... ouch
DukeofTuring: 9 point build
TheMystic: 12 point build YOU FOOL!!!!! Deleted rolls: 28 point build!!

For future information, deleted/edited rolls will be treated as natural 1's and a demerit...

[TheMystic]

I didn't realise I had deleted rolls, I know I dummied out failed dice code, but that failed to roll.

[jaredh]

Originally Posted by OllieNorth

I've always thought of it as good roleplay. You wouldn't fight with everything you own on your back unless you are in the army. You would drop your pack, fight, then go pick it up.

Yeah, its a quick action to drop a backpack...

[jaredh]

At this point, they've made it such that even if you modify dice posts and even if you "delete" rolls the thread owner can still see'em.

[TheMystic]

True, which is why I didn't delete the dummied out rolls, I just put them in a spoiler tag. I have found this to work on previous occasions.

I must have pressed a wrong button somewhere is all.

also, my stats on natural 1's for deleting rolls would have been painful in the extreme.

Also, Taika can carry a full 3 pounds of more stuff before becoming encumbered, and I think she's my third strongest character ever.

[UncaJJ]

I saw the horked ones also, but it did show deleted ones as well.. very odd. Everyone should preview dice threads then

[DukeofTuring]

Something I've had to learn on here through long, painful practice . Very good advice.

Originally Posted by OllieNorth

I've always thought of it as good roleplay. You wouldn't fight with everything you own on your back unless you are in the army. You would drop your pack, fight, then go pick it up.

I see you point, but I don't think we're necessarily disagreeing about the same thing. Elenion, in the context that I'm describing, would be acting more as a scout and skirmisher, not the sort of person who would be humping along with a pack in the main body of the group in real life. And I did consider buying a mule to form the beginnings of a sort of "baggage train" for our party, but pack animals and that sort of thing tend to either complicate things excessively or just get forgotten in my experience.

Originally Posted by jaredh

Yeah, its a quick action to drop a backpack...

I didn't know that, but then again I haven't been playing pathfinder forever, nor is encumbrance usually an issue for me. Kind of makes my original concerns a moot point. Unless UncaJJ objects, then, I'll arrange my sheet so that Elenion can easily drop the encumbrance of the items in his backpack and switch into combat mode.

[jaredh]

I'm a BIG believer in pack animals in relation to cross country movement. I know this AP has a lot of that....I almost bought a horse seeing as the Shoanti Barbarian probably ought to have one....but I didn't (yet).

It entirely depends on how the DM is going to moderate cross country movement....are you gonna go from point A to point B with minimal encounters...or are you gonna get an encounter ever 20 miles like the 2e D&D book suggested is the furthest you should be able to go without *something* causing you to stop (not necessarily fight mind you)

[TheMystic]

I have the mount spell, which gives me a horse for 2 hours / level if we need to get somewhere quickly, without burdening us in tight spaces.

I presume that by the time more sigificant distances are involved my caster level will have increased some, I might even have enough spell slots to provide horses for the party.

[Disciple]

Lol, I almost bought a pack animal myself, but decided my character wouldn't have done so yet.

[UncaJJ]

Geese! Pack animals??? Do I need to revise starting gold??

I'm stuck at the other site again tomorrow, so not sure how much char sheet validating I will be able to do...

[Disciple]

Oh, that reminds me... I wanted to buy some scrolls, but since I have Scribe Scroll, can I buy them at half price? (Obviously, only ones I could write.) Otherwise I'll just wait and do so in-game.