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Old Jun 8th, 2022, 12:30 PM
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Re "Cantrips feat" -- If one player gets a free feat, can we all? :-)

Spherecasters totally crush core Pathfinder casters until maybe 10th level.

I'll have Liana become a spherecaster (via Armorist) at 2nd level.
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Old Jun 8th, 2022, 05:25 PM
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Re "Cantrips feat" -- If one player gets a free feat, can we all? :-)

Spherecasters totally crush core Pathfinder casters until maybe 10th level.

I'll have Liana become a spherecaster (via Armorist) at 2nd level.
I ask because it is listed as an optional houserule, considering spherecasters of some kinds don't have the equivalent of cantrips (poor illusionists).
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I ask because it is listed as an optional houserule, considering spherecasters of some kinds don't have the equivalent of cantrips (poor illusionists).
Yeah, but Illusionists can suck a fat one. Isn't that right, Dylan Scott?

But seriously, I sort of agree with CatCanCook's point of "If one person gets a free feat then everyone does", but the feat itself is basically being able to cast a couple of weak cantrips. So, you know, not fantastic.

For roleplay and realism reasons, it feels weird for Kara to be able to make stone walls and weapons with her magic and not be able to light a match, so I'll say you can choose 3 out of the 10 to be Cantrips that Kara can use without needing to take the feat.
  • You may make a ranged touch attack, dealing 1d3 acid, electricity, fire, or cold damage to a target.
  • You may clean, soil, or color up to 1 cubic foot of material per round.
  • You may create floating lights the size of candle flames and move them up to 20 feet per round as a free action.
  • You may create a spark such as with flint and steel, which may ignite flammable, unattended Fine objects.
  • You may open or close a door or container weighing no more than 30 lbs.
  • You may chill, warm, or flavor 1 lb. of nonliving material.
  • You may create a small breeze from whichever direction you choose, strong enough to rustle clothing and flicker candles.
  • You may lift objects weighing up to 1 lb. and move them up to 10 feet per round.
  • You may create small non-speech sounds, such as that of a mouse screeching, soft simple harp music, or the hubbub of a whispered conversation.
  • You may touch a creature or object and detect whether it possesses a magical aura. You may use Spellcraft to identify its aura as if using the detect magic spell.

To get all of the Cantrips would require the Feat Investment.
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Old Jun 9th, 2022, 12:40 AM
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Sorry if my Pathfinder illiteracy is showing, but everyone DOES get a free feat at first level, right? I thought I saw that on the character advancement chart, though I could be wrong.

Unless y’all are talking about another feat on top of that one.
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Old Jun 9th, 2022, 07:04 AM
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In the dice thread, I tried out the mini game for Burlesque. Liana made a quite solid performance (memorable) but misread the audience.

Without investing in Appraise -- she will be erratic at this particular game.

Lentil -- any feedback? If it's OK, her first actual shift (when it occurs) can play out as rolled, if that's OK

I'm curious about the rock-paper-scissors style games. How does the opponent pick a strategy? Random, or do I play against you as DM. It seems likely an opponent can tell she's high dex low str so out-psyching might be possible. Would bluff or sense motives apply?

If the checks are combat checks, the she could presumably give herself an advantage using her zealot ability.

Also, if she has time off during someone else's shift, she could put them into her Collective and ally aid another on them. Will that be allowed?

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Old Jun 10th, 2022, 04:43 AM
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Some time over the next ten minutes or so if in-game play, Liana will be inviting people in the party to join the collective.

I'll assume this is not going to happen right in the thick of Tilly yelling at us, but as she gets the chance, she will proposition each person.

Join Liana Xirkul's Traveling Troupe!. The bonuses to combat, saving throws, and her willingness/ability to boost your skills just might prove a meaningful edge. (And better stuff if the game reaches higher levels.)

The Zealot class is here:
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/alternative...lasses/zealot/
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Old Jun 10th, 2022, 09:35 AM
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Sorry if my Pathfinder illiteracy is showing, but everyone DOES get a free feat at first level, right? I thought I saw that on the character advancement chart, though I could be wrong.

Unless y’all are talking about another feat on top of that one.
We were talking about a free one on top of the one you normally start with. You start with one. Humans get an extra one. Certain classes also get extra.

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In the dice thread, I tried out the mini game for Burlesque. Liana made a quite solid performance (memorable) but misread the audience.

Without investing in Appraise -- she will be erratic at this particular game.

Lentil -- any feedback? If it's OK, her first actual shift (when it occurs) can play out as rolled, if that's OK

I'm curious about the rock-paper-scissors style games. How does the opponent pick a strategy? Random, or do I play against you as DM. It seems likely an opponent can tell she's high dex low str so out-psyching might be possible. Would bluff or sense motives apply?

If the checks are combat checks, the she could presumably give herself an advantage using her zealot ability.

Also, if she has time off during someone else's shift, she could put them into her Collective and ally aid another on them. Will that be allowed?
You can use her first shift as that if you so choose. I might change the DC of the Appraise roll, however, just to make it not quite so vital to the process of playing the game. Specifically to burlesque, I wouldn't actively deceive you, I'd just make the clue harder or say something like "Liana doesn't know what the crowd wants."

The Rock-Paper-Scissors would be played against me, though I will also be describing those who you're playing against so you have a good knowledge of who you're playing with. I might have to use the honour system a little and (for the daily ones) put each dice result and clue for each game in spoilerbuttons, just so I'm not posting like 10 times a day, and rely on you all to be nice and not peek at a result higher than what you got. Not saying you would cheat, just explaining what I'm doing.

Aid Another's a great call, and I would say yes.

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Cool, this is playable, thanks. :-)
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Sorry if my Pathfinder illiteracy is showing, but everyone DOES get a free feat at first level, right? I thought I saw that on the character advancement chart, though I could be wrong.

Unless y’all are talking about another fear on top of that one.
Was specifically talking about a spheres of power thing where they removed cantrips from the granted spellcasting ability (That all spellcasters get) and made it into a feat, where they mention specifically that it can be a thing granted by DMs.
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@ Everyone! - I've posted the casino games for this shift! I'll mention earnings to people once everyone has rolled.

@ Dylan Scott - please post a copy of your application in the Characters thread, and also Grim's sheet.

@ Noquarter19 - I'm imagining that, when Vyeggar wakes up, it'll look something like this...
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sorry for the delay, I'll get that sorted straight away. I must admit i only saw the chapter 1 - lost thread and didn't even know there was other posts in the Group A folder, opps.

and yeah..Stupid Illusionists and their damn bug illusions grrr
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@ Noquarter19 - I'll let you do the wrestling game too. I'll have the shift only last three hours in case you guys want to go hunting for clues. Due to Vyeggar only being awake for one hour of that shift, play as normal but you get a third of the normal earnings. And no, we won't be role-playing it.

@ Alatere - I think it was you who asked about combat maneuvers in the wrestling. For now I'll say no, just to avoid adding even more dice to it for now. For individual encounters, though, then yeah

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@ Alatere - I think it was you who asked about combat maneuvers in the wrestling. For now I'll say no, just to avoid adding even more dice to it for now. For individual encounters, though, then yeah
It wouldn't be adding extra dice it would just be the modifiers from the trait feat or background. ie rather that 1d20+str for a throw it would be 1d20+str+any combat modifier bonuses.


Not overly concerned either way but just wanted to check.
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I'm not posting yet, not until CatCanCook has said their piece (if they have anything to say at this time) but I am going to post a floor plan that Sandraminae is going to take you around. I would like it acknowledged that making maps with MS Paint with no mouse is bloody annoying, and I should be winning some sort of award.

@ Dylan Scott (and I suppose anyone else doing searching while working) - You can make a Diplomacy roll to gather information and/or a Perception check to look out for certain pale humans, scarred kobolds or anyone else acting shifty. As a note though, if you make both checks it'll increase the DC as you're not ONLY listening and asking around, but also working.
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